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I’ve seen it here before. Can we crowdsource?
T30: UChicago WashU Vanderbilt UCB UCLA Others: Wake Tulane Northeastern |
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Cornell USC NYU Tufts |
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For point of reference, these were the average scores pre-covid when most schools were mandatory. It might be helpful to see how going TO impacted these schools:
Pre-covid, when scores were mandatory, this was the ranking of every college's average SAT: 1. Cal Tech 1544 2. MIT 1507 3. Olin College of Engineering 1506 4. UChicago 1506 5. Yale 1498 5. Vanderbilt 1498 7. Harvard 1497 8. Princeton 1490 9. Harvey Mudd 1484 10. Rice 1482 11. Stanford 1479 12. Columbia 1473 13. Wash Univ 1469 14. Northwestern 1460 15. Penn 1457 15. Brown 1457 17. Notre Dame 1455 18. Johns Hopkins 1453 19. Amherst 1451 20. Duke 1450 21. Carnegie Mellon 1448 22. Williams 1442 23. Webb Iinstitute 1442 24. Dartmouth 1437 25. Pomona 1435 25. Northeastern 1435 |
How can UChicago which is a small school that accepts a mix of Test and TO beat UCB and UCLA which are huge and 100% test blind? |
| How can I find out about Cornell’s TO data for the college of arts & sciences? |
Maybe they don’t “beat”? |
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I don’t know what you mean by “beat” but UChicago CDS says that despite being permanently TO, applicants still submit test scores! 49% submit SAT and 35% submit ACT. These must be stellar scores for kids to reveal them probably proudly to the school. I think TO at other schools plays out very differently. |
Chicago scores were not mandatory pre-Covid |
This shows how TO has warped perceptions of what is a “good” score. So many threads arguing that only 1500+ belong AND can do well at these schools. 🙄🤔 |
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I think Pomona/CMC also take a lot TO.
What about Amherst/Williams? Anyone have the CDS handy? |
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There have to more.
What about UMiami? |
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