DQs for starts

Anonymous


Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.
Anonymous
The most common is starting your entry into the water before the start buzzer sounds. They don’t do this much with younger kids, but you can also get DQd at the start for flinching, even if you don’t actually start your entry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf


A DFS is different. This is when a swimmer chooses not to swim an event but failed to "scratch." It's a way to avoid any penalty (like being DQ's from all additional events that day). The rules are more strict for finals the prelims. I think this rule was created, because what started happening, was if a swimmer missed the scratch deadline but didn't really want to swim the 200 Fly in finals, they'd just get on the blocks and false start on purpose therefore avoiding the penalty for not having scratched but also preventing someone else from swimming in their spot. I'm not exactly sure what the rule is, but here's a good summary that google turned up (but its from Wisconsin).
https://www.teamunify.com/czwilsc/UserFiles/Image/Officials/OfficialsDeclaredFalseStart2009.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf


A DFS is when a swimmer notifies the referee of intent to withdraw after the scratch deadline. The swimmer never makes it to the blocks.

https://www.teamunify.com/czwilsc/UserFiles/Image/Officials/OfficialsDeclaredFalseStart-5-8-13.pdf
Anonymous


What does Delay of Meet mean? At the January open a kid false started and told off the Starter - yelled at him and on the sheet it say Delay of Meet.
Anonymous
There were several delay of starts and false starts at IMX. They looked no different.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf


A DFS is when a swimmer notifies the referee of intent to withdraw after the scratch deadline. The swimmer never makes it to the blocks.

https://www.teamunify.com/czwilsc/UserFiles/Image/Officials/OfficialsDeclaredFalseStart-5-8-13.pdf


That's interesting - I always thought DFS is false starts like the other poster. I think they are used in both situations. Or no?
Anonymous
Can you explain the DFS someone?

Trying to understand why it would be used.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf


A DFS is when a swimmer notifies the referee of intent to withdraw after the scratch deadline. The swimmer never makes it to the blocks.

https://www.teamunify.com/czwilsc/UserFiles/Image/Officials/OfficialsDeclaredFalseStart-5-8-13.pdf


If you DFS in a final would they pull up the next kid like on a scratch?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf


A DFS is when a swimmer notifies the referee of intent to withdraw after the scratch deadline. The swimmer never makes it to the blocks.

https://www.teamunify.com/czwilsc/UserFiles/Image/Officials/OfficialsDeclaredFalseStart-5-8-13.pdf


If you DFS in a final would they pull up the next kid like on a scratch?


Yes. It happened in at least one event at our district finals last weekend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can you explain the DFS someone?

Trying to understand why it would be used.


The one swimmer I know personally who did it did so because of an injury sustained between prelims and finals, but after the 30 minute scratch period. She wanted to reserve the ability to swim the remaining days of the meet with no penalty if the injury turned out to be minor (which unfortunately was not the case).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can you explain the DFS someone?

Trying to understand why it would be used.


There were a bunch of DFS in the January Open at Fairland. https://www.pvswim.org/2324meet/24-51-2rw.html

In the positive check-in events, like 400 IM and 500 free, the mostly likely explanation is that a few swimmers decided not to swim those events after checking in. In the 100 free of an Open meet, I'd expect to see a NS over a DFS, so not sure what happened there.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

Can anyone explain the different DQs regarding starts and what they mean? It confuses the hell out of me.


The declared false start or DFS is the one that confuses most people. It usually happens when a swimmer tries to time the start and is already moving when the horn sounds but not so soon that the starter issues a stand command. Otherwise, most false starts are early take offs without a horn ever sounding.

This might help too: https://www.pvswim.org/parents/articles/False_Start.pdf


so what's the code for this violation?
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