Class Rank reporting by FCPS for college admissions

[Anonymous]

Most ranked universities have their common data set mentioning Class Rank as a Very Important criteria in admissions. how does FCPS calculate Class Rank of a student? based on GPA or additional factors? Can a student request to know their Class Rank before it gets sent to the university? is it shown in studentvue or parentvue?

Referring to section C7
https://ira.virginia.edu/sites/g/files/jsddwu1106/files/2023-10/CDS%202023_508-1.pdf

[Anonymous]

Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

Do FCPS high schools maintain a report detailing grade distribution and GPA deciles? Is it possible for parents to request a copy of this report to determine their student's decile placement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

Do FCPS high schools maintain a report detailing grade distribution and GPA deciles? Is it possible for parents to request a copy of this report to determine their student's decile placement?

No and No.

They don’t rank for a reason, it’s to reduce pressure on students over trivial differences in GPA that causes ranking changes.

I went to a high pressure famous public HS in NYC that ranked and kids LOST THEIR SHIT over getting a 96 instead of a 98 on a test because that 0.001 difference in their four year average so they dropped from #16 to #22 (out of 800) and they were convinced Princeton was now forevermore denied to them. People would argue with teachers after every test over 1 or 2 points when they already had 95+ scores on everything.

It’s absolutely poisonous and I will never ever ever support class ranking.

[Anonymous]

Most high schools no longer rank students. I don't know about FCPS specifically.

While most still publish some sort of decile/quartile information in their School Profile from which a rough rank can be deduced, that's not the same thing as providing an actual rank. My understanding, which may or may not be correct, is that the Common Data Set section with deciles requires student rank to be reported on the transcript.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

Do FCPS high schools maintain a report detailing grade distribution and GPA deciles? Is it possible for parents to request a copy of this report to determine their student's decile placement?

No and No.

They don’t rank for a reason, it’s to reduce pressure on students over trivial differences in GPA that causes ranking changes.

I went to a high pressure famous public HS in NYC that ranked and kids LOST THEIR SHIT over getting a 96 instead of a 98 on a test because that 0.001 difference in their four year average so they dropped from #16 to #22 (out of 800) and they were convinced Princeton was now forevermore denied to them. People would argue with teachers after every test over 1 or 2 points when they already had 95+ scores on everything.

It’s absolutely poisonous and I will never ever ever support class ranking.

Feel sorry for what you were put through. Where are you now?
I had similar experience in sports. One bad pass made on the court, I was put back on the bench and stayed there for entire season. Had to attend all practices entire season, and only got a few seconds on the court, and many teammates didnt even get that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

Do FCPS high schools maintain a report detailing grade distribution and GPA deciles? Is it possible for parents to request a copy of this report to determine their student's decile placement?

No and No.

They don’t rank for a reason, it’s to reduce pressure on students over trivial differences in GPA that causes ranking changes.

I went to a high pressure famous public HS in NYC that ranked and kids LOST THEIR SHIT over getting a 96 instead of a 98 on a test because that 0.001 difference in their four year average so they dropped from #16 to #22 (out of 800) and they were convinced Princeton was now forevermore denied to them. People would argue with teachers after every test over 1 or 2 points when they already had 95+ scores on everything.

It’s absolutely poisonous and I will never ever ever support class ranking.

Colleges can easily put all applicants from a given high school in order by GPA. They can situate that data within the data from the last decade. They can even automate the process. The college knows your class rank percentile. It’s just the kids and families who are in the dark.

I get why high schools need to shield their teachers from the monstrous behavior you describe. But don’t kid yourself. Every school that gives grades is effectively ranking the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

Do FCPS high schools maintain a report detailing grade distribution and GPA deciles? Is it possible for parents to request a copy of this report to determine their student's decile placement?

No and No.

They don’t rank for a reason, it’s to reduce pressure on students over trivial differences in GPA that causes ranking changes.

I went to a high pressure famous public HS in NYC that ranked and kids LOST THEIR SHIT over getting a 96 instead of a 98 on a test because that 0.001 difference in their four year average so they dropped from #16 to #22 (out of 800) and they were convinced Princeton was now forevermore denied to them. People would argue with teachers after every test over 1 or 2 points when they already had 95+ scores on everything.

It’s absolutely poisonous and I will never ever ever support class ranking.

Colleges can easily put all applicants from a given high school in order by GPA. They can situate that data within the data from the last decade. They can even automate the process. The college knows your class rank percentile. It’s just the kids and families who are in the dark.

I get why high schools need to shield their teachers from the monstrous behavior you describe. But don’t kid yourself. Every school that gives grades is effectively ranking the kids.

DP. Many elite schools may only have a few applicants from one high school. Putting them in order by GPA may not necessarily be revealing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges calculate class rank based on info from the high school profile, their knowledge of the high school,amd a student’s trmscript as few schools provide class rank these days . You can ask your high schook guidance counselor where they think your student falls in the class.

Do FCPS high schools maintain a report detailing grade distribution and GPA deciles? Is it possible for parents to request a copy of this report to determine their student's decile placement?

No and No.

They don’t rank for a reason, it’s to reduce pressure on students over trivial differences in GPA that causes ranking changes.

I went to a high pressure famous public HS in NYC that ranked and kids LOST THEIR SHIT over getting a 96 instead of a 98 on a test because that 0.001 difference in their four year average so they dropped from #16 to #22 (out of 800) and they were convinced Princeton was now forevermore denied to them. People would argue with teachers after every test over 1 or 2 points when they already had 95+ scores on everything.

It’s absolutely poisonous and I will never ever ever support class ranking.

Colleges can easily put all applicants from a given high school in order by GPA. They can situate that data within the data from the last decade. They can even automate the process. The college knows your class rank percentile. It’s just the kids and families who are in the dark.

I get why high schools need to shield their teachers from the monstrous behavior you describe. But don’t kid yourself. Every school that gives grades is effectively ranking the kids.

+1

The parents are out of control. Also, the top kids in each class know who else is the top ranked.