When did they change in pool to vary per school?

[Anonymous]

I have two older kids in AAP and the cutoff used to be around 136. If I remember correctly, you had to get this on the NNAT or the Cogat. I have a younger child now and just looking at AAP again and saw all these threads about the cutoff being different from school to pyramid. We live in McLean and our base school is an AAP center so we probably have the highest cutoff in fcps.

[Anonymous]

They changed it 2 yrs ago.

[Anonymous]

Because the last audit suggested that aap should serve the top kids at their individual schools and not the entire county. The in-pool scores address that suggestion. It is also the reason that pretty much every ES will have some form of LLIV in the next few years. I believe that the goal was to have LLIV in all ES by 2025.

[Anonymous]

Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

[Anonymous]

They did a local norms pilot two years ago and extended it to all last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

What’s your research to support this? Or is this just you opining on a Saturday morning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

The program is moving to support the top 10% at each school, that is not dragging people down. Kids at schools with higher scores have a solid group of kids for LIV as well as a higher scoring Gen Ed cohort, the kids will be fine. The top 10% at the Title I schools need the differentiation far more then the kids at a high SES school where most of the kids are on grade level or ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

The program is moving to support the top 10% at each school, that is not dragging people down. Kids at schools with higher scores have a solid group of kids for LIV as well as a higher scoring Gen Ed cohort, the kids will be fine. The top 10% at the Title I schools need the differentiation far more then the kids at a high SES school where most of the kids are on grade level or ahead.

Yes, but it's not a GT system. It's more equitable - GT kids are by definition outliers and inequitable.

[Anonymous]

Remember it’s just for the screening pool not for placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

It's not the job on people on top to help people at the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

The program is moving to support the top 10% at each school, that is not dragging people down. Kids at schools with higher scores have a solid group of kids for LIV as well as a higher scoring Gen Ed cohort, the kids will be fine. The top 10% at the Title I schools need the differentiation far more then the kids at a high SES school where most of the kids are on grade level or ahead.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

Hell no. Not when the LLIV schools follow the cluster model which defeats the AAP's purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

Hell no. Not when the LLIV schools follow the cluster model which defeats the AAP's purpose.

You may not like it, but the handwriting is on the wall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark my words, FCPS will ultimately do away with the center model. They’re moving to local level IV in every elementary, that will serve the top 10% in each school.

Under the old model, almost no one from Title One schools was in-pool, which meant that smart kids with less involved parents and less enriching environments were falling through the cracks.

We used to live in a high farms neighborhood and the school didn’t have enough kids to have an AAP class. The center school pulled from like 10 elementary and the AAP center was strong.

Dragging people down from the top won’t necessarily help the people at the bottom.

What’s your research to support this? Or is this just you opining on a Saturday morning?

I don’t think it is fair to have a high cut off in a school like McLean or Oakton and let lesser kids in in Annandale or Alexandria. While it is fine to offer more spots to kids who normally would not be in pool in high FARMs school, I don’t think it is right to cut a kid in McLean with higher scores.