Legacy at HYPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No legacy benefit without ED or REA.

No legacy benefit without $$$ or significant family interaction with the school (i.e. board / advisors / alumni groups).

Just having parents who graduated from that school means nothing today.

Yes that was clear from the dataset that came out in the Harvard FAIR litigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it detrimental for a HYPS legacy kid to apply RD vs. SCEA/REA to the HYPS school they have legacy? I have heard it is for the ED Ivies, but not sure about the non-binding restricted early action HYPS schools.

It's hard to discern any kind of pattern for HYPS these days. It seems like there's still a marginal benefit for a legacy to apply SCEA, but not much of one in the RD round. If the kid really wants to attend and it's a strong app, shoot your shot. But there's always an opportunity cost to applying SCEA/REA/ED. Game theory suggests strong applicants should apply elsewhere than HYPS to maximize chances of admittance to a highly selective school. Absolutely no one knows what HYPS is doing at the moment.

DS has double legacy at Stanford. But applied early elsewhere and got in. So I guess we'll never know.

Agree. HYPS needs to be avoided by top applicants. ED to another school and call it a win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No legacy benefit without ED or REA.

No legacy benefit without $$$ or significant family interaction with the school (i.e. board / advisors / alumni groups).

Just having parents who graduated from that school means nothing today.

Yes that was clear from the dataset that came out in the Harvard FAIR litigation.

Actually the opposite. 33% of legacy kids were admitted. You think all those families were donating 10 figures or on the board? There’s a reason they have a Z list. It’s not for legacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it detrimental for a HYPS legacy kid to apply RD vs. SCEA/REA to the HYPS school they have legacy? I have heard it is for the ED Ivies, but not sure about the non-binding restricted early action HYPS schools.

It's hard to discern any kind of pattern for HYPS these days. It seems like there's still a marginal benefit for a legacy to apply SCEA, but not much of one in the RD round. If the kid really wants to attend and it's a strong app, shoot your shot. But there's always an opportunity cost to applying SCEA/REA/ED. Game theory suggests strong applicants should apply elsewhere than HYPS to maximize chances of admittance to a highly selective school. Absolutely no one knows what HYPS is doing at the moment.

DS has double legacy at Stanford. But applied early elsewhere and got in. So I guess we'll never know.

Agree. HYPS needs to be avoided by top applicants. ED to another school and call it a win.

+1. My kids skipped SCEA as a legacy at Princeton and both were accepted ED at other ivies. The are happy with their choice.

[Anonymous]

What about kids who have legacy to an HYPS but apply to a HYPS where they don’t have legacy? The colleges can see where parents attended so will that hurt them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about kids who have legacy to an HYPS but apply to a HYPS where they don’t have legacy? The colleges can see where parents attended so will that hurt them?

Perhaps the double stupidity of 1) applying to any SCEA whatsoever and 2) applying to the one without legacy will hurt them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No legacy benefit without ED or REA.

No legacy benefit without $$$ or significant family interaction with the school (i.e. board / advisors / alumni groups).

Just having parents who graduated from that school means nothing today.

Yes that was clear from the dataset that came out in the Harvard FAIR litigation.

Actually the opposite. 33% of legacy kids were admitted. You think all those families were donating 10 figures or on the board? There’s a reason they have a Z list. It’s not for legacy.

false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about kids who have legacy to an HYPS but apply to a HYPS where they don’t have legacy? The colleges can see where parents attended so will that hurt them?

DD is legacy at Yale, but applied REA to Stanford and got accepted. Don’t know what would’ve happened at Yale RD as she didn’t apply after Stanford acceptance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually the opposite. 33% of legacy kids were admitted. You think all those families were donating 10 figures or on the board? There’s a reason they have a Z list. It’s not for legacy.

You do realize that HYPS legacies can and do have plenty of other hooks too that have nothing to do with family donations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it detrimental for a HYPS legacy kid to apply RD vs. SCEA/REA to the HYPS school they have legacy? I have heard it is for the ED Ivies, but not sure about the non-binding restricted early action HYPS schools.

Why can't you spell out the words instead of just writing acronyms?

[Anonymous]

HYPS - Harvard Yale Princeton Stanford
REA - restricted early action (Stanford)
SCEA - single choice early action (HYP)
ED - early decision