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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"A lot of these folks X" -> stereotyping a whole race based on experiences with a very small number -> racist.

If you got mugged by an African-American, would you go around talking about how black people are thugs?[/quote]

DP. The person above is not stereotyping an entire race with that comment.

The fact that there are a large number of upper-middle class and "wealthy" Asians who are attempting to protect their prior privileged access to an exceptional academic opportunity says nothing about Asians more broadly.

The fact that by and large, they are not publicly joined by members of other races (except occasionally by people who are married to Asians acting in the self interest of their biracial children or Asian stepchildren) is what permits the person above to refer to the group as "Asian".

It is Asians who are making this argument publicly, but it is far from [i]all[/i] Asians.[/quote]

There is a school similar to TJ in NYC where they also tried to change the admissions criteria for similar reasons.  The school was almost 80% asian and they talked about how asian families were buying their way into the school.  Then it was pointed out that asians have a higher poverty rate than blacks or hispanics in NYC because they are all immigrants.  Most of the asian students were on free/reduced lunch, a higher propiortion than the school in general which was about 40% free/reduced lunch.  Money has nothing to do with it, it's all about race.

If money is what gets you into tj, there would have been more white kids.  White people in northern virginia are wealthier than asians and yet the biggest absolute increase in population under the new admissions process was among white students.

It is clear that some parents want their kids to get great opportunities but [b]don't necessarily want their kids to stress out and bust their ass to earn them.[/b][/quote]

Counter-point: the previous admissions process was incentivizing behavior that took "stressing out" and "busting your ass" to a deeply unhealthy level for many students, who would then get in to TJ and crash hard. It wouldn't appear that they were crashing hard because of the sheer volume of external support they were receiving, but the evidence came in the form of self-harming behavior.[/quote]

The previous method was competitive and merit based.  The current method looks pretty random.

Allocating social resources based on merit might create more stress but it also leads to more efficient allocation.  
Academic stress happens everywhere, if those kids don't get into tj, their parents don't give up on their kids.  The academic stress is still there.
[b]It's not like tj has the highest suicide rate in the area[/b].[/quote]
Sure it does not.  But is the idea behind admitting under-qualified 8th grade algebra 1 students and setting them up to face TJ rigor and inhumanely subject them to stress?[/quote]

There have ALWAYS been Algebra 1 students who got into TJ. Indeed, for most of the school’s early existence, the majority of students entering were coming in from Alg1.

Some of the school’s most outstanding graduates, even in recent years, have entered from Alg1.

But you’re going to sit here and pretend that you care about them and their well-being as an excuse to advance your pernicious self-serving narrative that TJ should only be for kids who are in Geometry or higher - or that kids who are in Pre-calc or above should be automatic admits.

Alg1 TJ students do not need your support. They have been doing splendidly and will continue to do so while you cry your crocodile tears. Enough already with this nonsense.[/quote]

And for most of MLB history most pitchers threw below 90 mph.  The world has gotten more competitive.  
Algebra 1 kids have NOT been doping splendidly.
By all accounts the algebra 1 kids struggle more frequently than the general population.  
We should be making efforts to increase the rate of algebra ready 6th graders in every neighborhood.

You cannot impose equity at 9th grade while ignoring it from 1st through 8th.
You have to have aap kids in every neighborhood.  
I mean if we can impose geographic quotas for tj, why not for aap?
If they never get into aap, it is not reasonable to expect them to be ready for tj in 9th grade.[/quote]

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