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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]There used to be a belief that higher education was a societal goods that we all had a vested interest in supporting. We believed in social mobility and having an educated populace that could compete with any nation in the world.[/b] It is why there was a GI bill, Pell Grants, etc. You can save a lot, but tuition has been going up at a rate much greater than average income. It is more out of reach than it used to be. So people are understandably frustrated. They can’t keep up and they’ve seen higher ed shift from a common good to a luxury good. [/quote] Some of us still believe this and that is why the comparison of a degree to a BMW or a Honda is so wrong.[/quote] You believe you are entitled to "higher education at an elite college" or just higher education. I believe in the 2nd. But not the first. Nobody is entitled to an elite education. Smart people know that you can go far in life, you just need AN education. You can get that at your state U or a private U, what you do while attending matters much much much more than where you go. So yes, I believe everyone should be able to get a college degree, if they want. And that is possible and affordable for most. It just might not be Harvard. Fact is you most likely are not getting into Harvard anyhow, so why the concerns. [/quote] People say that, but for certain majors it absolutely matters whether the college is elite or not. The connections my kid made and the interships while in college propelled him up the social ladder. I was your typical MC state school kid with a good Fed job--but as my spouse and I made more $ and vaulted into the UMC it exposes you to so much more and you see the advantages to kids ---ones my spouse and I never had (he grew up poor). People like us lived it so we see what benefits our kids have from their private education and the neighbors we have and the connections they have made. Now--STEM majors it's a different thing completely. An engineer does just as well, if not better, at a public state school. But--if we are talking govt/politics/international relations and business, etc---unfortunately it does matter.[/quote]
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