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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]test optional was a failed experiment[/quote] it wasn't an experiment it was due to testing centers closing during the pandemic[/quote] My 2023 and 2024 kids had plenty of opportunities to take and retake the SAT over most of their high school years. The only graduating years that should have been test optional was class of 2021. Instead, they doubled down on test optional, and ended up with a bunch of kids from the "you get an A if you login to most of your classes and do this quizlet" generation with school shut-down inflated grades, lack of skills needed for rigorous classes, and no impartial SAT to show whether or not they possessed the intellect to overcome the significant deficiencies of their pandemic "school" years.[/quote] Yup, this makes me sad for my dd who was 2023 and had very good SAT scores. Fortunately, she loves where she wound up.[/quote] So you believe some stupid kid who had a lower score but didn't have to show it took her spot? Seriously? [/quote] I can guarantee that happened. DD22 at Ivy and her TO roommate already has 2 C’s. She heard another boy bragging abt his 19 ACT who got in TO. 2 girls from the middle of the pack at our private school made it to HYP TO. Some URM but some aren’t. Some are celeb kids. Her roommate is Asian. I mean there are countless kids that bonused in the TO era (‘21 - ‘23 grad classes). It was so unfair. [/quote] Help me understand why it's "unfair." You truly think that only students who can get a score above the, let's say, 96th percentile, and can prove that they will get a 3.5 GPA or better once they get there, should be allowed the opportunity to go to a top university? What if the student who has a lower score worked harder than your top scorer? They overcame learning disabilities and a massive wealth gap to earn top GPAs despite their low standardized test score? You think they just don't deserve it because they can't earn a score over 1500? Why do you think that? What makes it "fair" for the first kid to get the opportunity and the second one not to? Because that second kid will graduate with a 3.0 or maybe even a 2.8, instead of a 3.5? So what? As an aside, your horror at a kid having "2 Cs already" would be funny if it weren't so absurd. Cs get degrees, and I would be willing to bet her TO roommate is a heck of a lot more likeable than your DD. Why does she know, much less care, about her TO roommate's grades? I am going to guess they will not room together next year. I sure as heck would my counsel my DD to move on if your DD was her roommate and there was any chance she would encounter a rascist like you.[/quote] Not everyone gets to go Ivy. Mediocres who can’t spell “racist” but hurl it about endlessly should look elsewhere. Deal with it. [/quote] And NP here who also believes that life isn’t fair and that there really is a section of the general population who is more intelligent and intellectually capable than the vast majority of people in this world. We are not all equal in ability! We should have equal opportunity to show our abilities, but that does not mean all are capable of the same things. Such is life. And thank god for that otherwise all the important scientific breakthroughs and amazing novels and such would never have been found or written, etc! You think that the COVID vac was developed by a people who got a 1300 on the SAT? Probably not. [/quote]
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