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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Jews by definition cannot be Catholic." Anonymous may have definitions of "Jew" and "Catholic" in which a person cannot be both. But the Association of Hebrew Catholics exists as an apostolate which has been blessed by Cardinal Raymond Burke among others. See our website at https://hebrewcatholic.net[/quote] Mmmmkay but it has not been "blessed" by normative Jews. Call yourself whatever you want, but if you're claiming membership in two groups you have to satisfy the definitions set by both. According to one of these groups, membership in either precludes membership in the other.[/quote] Even if you don't recognize that Jesus is the Messiah and G-d in the flesh, assume for the sake of argument that Jesus is the Messiah and G-d in the flesh. Assume that a minority of Jews recognize this, but that the majority of Jews do not. Would the "real" Jews be the majority? Or would the majority have gone off the derech? Answer: both the majority and the minority would be "real" Jews, but the majority would have gone off the derech. If you want to define a "real" Jew as a Pharisee then perhaps you should use the term Pharisaic Jew or Jew who follows Pharisaic teachings. From Romans 11 (New American Bible Revised at bibleegateway.com): God’s Irrevocable Call. 25 I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not become wise [in] your own estimation: a hardening has come upon Israel in part, until the full number of the Gentiles comes in, 26 and thus all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The deliverer will come out of Zion, he will turn away godlessness from Jacob; 27 and this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” 28 In respect to the gospel, they are enemies on your account; but in respect to election, they are beloved because of the patriarchs. 29 For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable. Triumph of God’s Mercy. 30 Just as you once disobeyed God but have now received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they have now disobeyed in order that, by virtue of the mercy shown to you, they too may [now] receive mercy. 32 For God delivered all to disobedience, that he might have mercy upon all." [/quote] None of this has anything to do with actual Jews.[/quote]
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