Thinking about BASIS Mclean, but concerned about negative experiences listed here....

Anonymous
If you currently at BASIS, would appreciate any information about your current experiences. We are concerned about the level of homework, culture of pushing the kids too hard too early and the fact that they still seem to be "working out the kinks." Everyone that I met from admissions to teachers seemed to be somewhat stressed and just didn't seem all that happy to be there.

We are looked at the lower elementary program.
Anonymous
Always go with your gut.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you currently at BASIS, would appreciate any information about your current experiences. We are concerned about the level of homework, culture of pushing the kids too hard too early and the fact that they still seem to be "working out the kinks." Everyone that I met from admissions to teachers seemed to be somewhat stressed and just didn't seem all that happy to be there.

We are looked at the lower elementary program.


Why oh why are you still considering this place? Run away!!!
Anonymous
I would also like current thoughts. I have concerns about Basis as a whole but haven't heard anything from current families.
Anonymous
I have friends who are generally happy there. It was an improvement from previous school so it all depends on where you are starting at / expectations.
Anonymous
I've heard great things about the K program and the upper middle school into high school.
pbraverman
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Anonymous wrote:If you currently at BASIS, would appreciate any information about your current experiences. We are concerned about the level of homework, culture of pushing the kids too hard too early and the fact that they still seem to be "working out the kinks." Everyone that I met from admissions to teachers seemed to be somewhat stressed and just didn't seem all that happy to be there.

We are looked at the lower elementary program.


I just visited Basis in Tyson's at their invitation last week, so my information is about as current as it's going to get.

Any new school will be working out kinks (as will all the older ones!). The real question is whether the kinks they're working out are ones you appreciate and can live with.

I thought that the kids at Basis seemed pretty happy and regular. The diversity was astonishing, especially for a new school — one of the "least white" student bodies I've seen in a long time. There is no program for tuition reduction (often called "financial aid").

The approach at Basis emphasizes academic work over unstructured play. There are three 15-minute recess periods in K each day, plus 30 minutes of "Movement Foundation," a guided program for large muscle development. There are also three recess periods for 1–4 each day, but no Movement. That's far less than other lower schools whose curriculums are more play-based. In middle school the kids have PE three days a week; there is no additional scheduled time for physical activity.

On the other side, Basis has an Academic Enrichment period in MS each day, for kids to get help and expand their work. In LS they have two teachers, one who is touted as an expert in subject matter, and a second who is (roughly) a learning specialist. There is a strong engineering approach that seems to value creative input to complex projects.

At the HS level, there's a pretty broad liberal arts curriculum, but there is clearly emphasis on science and math, and the course offerings are VERY challenging. Almost every course is offered solely at the "Honors" or "AP" level. College counseling begins in ninth grade, about two years earlier than at independent schools (by which I mean 501(c)3 schools — Basis is a for-profit enterprise).

If expectations like three AP courses in tenth grade, multiple science classes in a single year, highly accelerated math (up to two years compared to most schools) appeal to you, it's worth considering. If competitive sports teams, a progressive teaching approach, and broad offerings in the visual and performing arts are very important, it's probably not the place for your family, and I don't think they'd claim otherwise.

That said, your gut feeling is important at any school, and the level of homework that seems to leave you discomfited is part of the culture at Basis, not a kink they're working out.

There are lovely people worth marrying that YOU wouldn't marry — almost all of the people we meet, in fact. In that sense I'm a proponent of the view that there are no "good" or "bad" schools. There are schools that fit a student and family, and schools that do not. Basis may be wonderful for the right kid and not so wonderful for YOUR family. There are lots of other great schools out there. Good luck!

Peter
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Disclaimer: The anonymity here makes me uncomfortable; it's easy to be uninformed, personal, or simply mean-spirited if people don't identify themselves. For that reason, I have an account so you know whose words you're reading. I have more than 20 years' experience as a teacher and administrator in independent schools, and I have counseled hundreds of students in finding their next schools. I hope I can be helpful to some folks. If you don't like something I've said, you're in good company — there's a long line of past students and parents ahead of you. If you want to chat further, please feel free to contact me offline: peter <at> arcpd <dot> com
Anonymous
Peter- thanks for your information. They make it seem like they have more recess time than other schools (3 is more than we currently have at our school but they do stay outside longer than 15 minutes).

We're currently at a small Montessori school and are transitioning simply because the school is too small (socially) and eventually need to transition to a more "traditional" school at some point.

We're looking for small class sizes, close proximity (we live in Vienna), character education and a sense of community. We do want a place where the kids will be challenged, but not stressed out and we value a broad education- humanities, arts and not only STEM. We want them to continue to love school as much as they do now and not "burn out" before they get to college.

Would you suggest another school in the area or am I asking for too much? The only reason we haven't looked at our public schools is because we were concerned about class sizes.

Maybe it would be better if I contacted you offline?

I would still appreciate input from current BASIS families on their personal experiences with the school/teachers/admin.
Anonymous
Look at flint hill, Potomac and congressional.
Anonymous
Also look at the Langley School. It's K-8, not K-12 like the ones mentioned above, so maybe not what you're looking for, but definitely worth a look. I found when touring schools that you really need to go and be on campus to get a feel for them. So I'd suggest trying to do that. Also, some schools are really good about having current parents at certain events like Open Houses, and the ones I've met were very willing to discuss the school with me, which was nice. Live conversation beats anonymous (except for Peter) responded on DCUM any day!
Anonymous
Character education isn't a priority at BASIS. And it's too soon to see if a sense of community develops.

Your messages suggest you want a more well-rounded program than BASIS offers.

Keep looking.
Anonymous
Run. Away.
Anonymous
pbraverman wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you currently at BASIS, would appreciate any information about your current experiences. We are concerned about the level of homework, culture of pushing the kids too hard too early and the fact that they still seem to be "working out the kinks." Everyone that I met from admissions to teachers seemed to be somewhat stressed and just didn't seem all that happy to be there.

We are looked at the lower elementary program.


I just visited Basis in Tyson's at their invitation last week, so my information is about as current as it's going to get.

Any new school will be working out kinks (as will all the older ones!). The real question is whether the kinks they're working out are ones you appreciate and can live with.

I thought that the kids at Basis seemed pretty happy and regular. The diversity was astonishing, especially for a new school — one of the "least white" student bodies I've seen in a long time. There is no program for tuition reduction (often called "financial aid").

The approach at Basis emphasizes academic work over unstructured play. There are three 15-minute recess periods in K each day, plus 30 minutes of "Movement Foundation," a guided program for large muscle development. There are also three recess periods for 1–4 each day, but no Movement. That's far less than other lower schools whose curriculums are more play-based. In middle school the kids have PE three days a week; there is no additional scheduled time for physical activity.

On the other side, Basis has an Academic Enrichment period in MS each day, for kids to get help and expand their work. In LS they have two teachers, one who is touted as an expert in subject matter, and a second who is (roughly) a learning specialist. There is a strong engineering approach that seems to value creative input to complex projects.

At the HS level, there's a pretty broad liberal arts curriculum, but there is clearly emphasis on science and math, and the course offerings are VERY challenging. Almost every course is offered solely at the "Honors" or "AP" level. College counseling begins in ninth grade, about two years earlier than at independent schools (by which I mean 501(c)3 schools — Basis is a for-profit enterprise).

If expectations like three AP courses in tenth grade, multiple science classes in a single year, highly accelerated math (up to two years compared to most schools) appeal to you, it's worth considering. If competitive sports teams, a progressive teaching approach, and broad offerings in the visual and performing arts are very important, it's probably not the place for your family, and I don't think they'd claim otherwise.

That said, your gut feeling is important at any school, and the level of homework that seems to leave you discomfited is part of the culture at Basis, not a kink they're working out.

There are lovely people worth marrying that YOU wouldn't marry — almost all of the people we meet, in fact. In that sense I'm a proponent of the view that there are no "good" or "bad" schools. There are schools that fit a student and family, and schools that do not. Basis may be wonderful for the right kid and not so wonderful for YOUR family. There are lots of other great schools out there. Good luck!

Peter
_____________________

Disclaimer: The anonymity here makes me uncomfortable; it's easy to be uninformed, personal, or simply mean-spirited if people don't identify themselves. For that reason, I have an account so you know whose words you're reading. I have more than 20 years' experience as a teacher and administrator in independent schools, and I have counseled hundreds of students in finding their next schools. I hope I can be helpful to some folks. If you don't like something I've said, you're in good company — there's a long line of past students and parents ahead of you. If you want to chat further, please feel free to contact me offline: peter <at> arcpd <dot> com



So why is this guy, Peter, allowed to chum for business on this non-commercial listserve. He handily gives out his contact info for his school selection consulting business, under the guise of being"uncomfortable" with anonymity. LOL. Anonymity just means he can't solicit business. But giving out his name and email means he can keep fishing for new clients.
Anonymous
+1 for Langley. Our child is there and we are very happy. The head of school is focused on the social and emotional development of the kids, as well as their academic success. It's our first year there, so we could still be in the honeymoon phase, but our child bounds out of the car for school every day.
Anonymous
Sounds like a Nysmith in Tysons
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