Just made someone's life much more complicated, oy vey

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

So they're learning a lesson.

OP, if your post was on "X" [former twitter], this would be known as being ratioed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

Not quite true. I told the neighborhood association prez, who is a friend of a friend, which is why I had her email handy. And DH and I talked about it over dinner and speculated the reasons for the house. You know, normal conversations by normal people. Shrugs.

[Anonymous]

I'm on Team OP. The landlord is breaking the rules and likely skirting on taxes too. We have rental laws so people - like low-income students - have safe housing that is properly up to code.

All the landlord needs to do is register the home as a rental, bring it up to code, and pay the correct tax rate (likely higher than owner-occupier rate). He didn't want to do that because he's greedy.

I don't actually think OP did anything wrong. And I don't think the landlord will sell the home, as the transaction costs are too high. He will just need to spend the money to get the house inspected as a legal rental.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

Not quite true. I told the neighborhood association prez, who is a friend of a friend, which is why I had her email handy. And DH and I talked about it over dinner and speculated the reasons for the house. You know, normal conversations by normal people. Shrugs.

"normal conversastions by normal people" aren't usually giddy and joyful about getting people kicked out of their homes. Sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

So it is a 5 bedroom, and they are asking $1k a month per room with PITI $4k.

Their expenses, maintenance, etc are on top of that. You think they are making bank on this? You are delusional and also psychotic to be invested in this…. but they are probably more delusional for thinking this will make them money.

OP here. No. I was thinking the same as you. That if someone bought this as an investment, they're not being very smart, which is why I do wonder what the full story is behind the house. Possibly they bought it with the intention of moving in then something changed and they couldn't and are thinking they can rent it out as a group house for more money rather than a SFH rental because based on the scant rental data I have for SFHs, this would probably rent for 3500-4000, below the hypothetical 5k+ as a group. Mind you, if they took out a conventional mortgage then they're probably in trouble with the mortgage company sooner or later because mortgage rates are different for properties bought as rentals.

Sooner or later the illegal group house would have been discovered and reported. House closed last December. I'm not feeling guilty and I'm laughing at the hysterical people on here thinking I deprived poor students of housing. I doubt most of you own houses in family neighborhoods.

I really am not cackling and being gleeful. I do feel sorry for the owner if he or she thought they were just making a decent investment near a university and didn't do their research carefully.

Are you being gleeful and you absolutely deprived students of housing. You also clearly aren't familiar with US university housing. If the owners live in a distant city, bought the house last year, and are charging rent that basically cover their costs, it is highly likely that the owners are the parents of a student who lives or has lived in the house. This is very common around college campuses. Sometimes the kid has graduated, and the parents keep the house for a bit because they have another kid coming along, or they don't want to pay the transaction costs of selling so quickly. In any case, the child of the owners is living in the house, and has several unrelated friends renting rooms, it sounds legal under your description of the local ordinances.

It's beyond me why you would want the people in this neighborhood to have their first impression of you be that of a tattle-tale. I hope the neighborhood President checks it out and finds the house isn't an illegal rental and realizes that you're a mean busybody before you even move into the neighborhood. But it's ok if it's not legal, because there's a 95% chance that, despite what the President said, most of the neighborhood is going to think that you're a jerk, anyway. Welcome to the neighborhood!

Not to mention -- "I doubt most of you own houses in family neighborhoods"? This arrogant, meanspirited statement tells me all I need to know about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

Not quite true. I told the neighborhood association prez, who is a friend of a friend, which is why I had her email handy. And DH and I talked about it over dinner and speculated the reasons for the house. You know, normal conversations by normal people. Shrugs.

"normal conversastions by normal people" aren't usually giddy and joyful about getting people kicked out of their homes. Sick.

Don't worry karma will eventually catch up with you.

[Anonymous]

I would be be worried about karma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

Not quite true. I told the neighborhood association prez, who is a friend of a friend, which is why I had her email handy. And DH and I talked about it over dinner and speculated the reasons for the house. You know, normal conversations by normal people. Shrugs.

"normal conversastions by normal people" aren't usually giddy and joyful about getting people kicked out of their homes. Sick.

Don't worry karma will eventually catch up with you.

I hope you mean the OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

The rent is too low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

So it is a 5 bedroom, and they are asking $1k a month per room with PITI $4k.

Their expenses, maintenance, etc are on top of that. You think they are making bank on this? You are delusional and also psychotic to be invested in this…. but they are probably more delusional for thinking this will make them money.

She is too dumb to make a story whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP checking in.

I can't exactly say what prompted me to start this post beyond that it was a slightly surreal moment realizing you'd likely made someone's life complicated in just a few minutes of emails. But I am amused by the responses and getting some proper laughs from them.

There's no shortage of student housing surrounding the university and adjoining neighborhoods are predominately group homes for the students so I'm not losing sleep if several grad students have to move. I was intrigued by the suggestion that perhaps parents of a student had bought the house, but the listing clearly describes five furnished bedrooms for rent in a five bedroom house, so who knows what the story is.

Asking rent was $1000+ per bedroom. If a family had bought this house with 20% down, monthly PITI would probably be $4k. Food for thought. The neighborhood association prez was not pleased by this discovery. Understandably. I doubt people would have issues with a homeowner renting a spare room in the attic to a grad student, which likely does/has happened as most surrounding owners are faculty. But buying a house in this neighborhood expressly to rent it out as a group home is a different story. So I don't feel guilty in the long run. If that was the intention of the buyers, they had several other neighborhoods nearby where this could have been done. So they're learning a lesson.

My interpretation of your OP was that you are very proud of yourself for screwing up the living situation for these students, but you know that you can't tell anyone IRL, because they'll think (correctly) that you're an awful person. So. you posted here to brag. At least you're now being honest.

How does it feel to be a sociopath?

Not quite true. I told the neighborhood association prez, who is a friend of a friend, which is why I had her email handy. And DH and I talked about it over dinner and speculated the reasons for the house. You know, normal conversations by normal people. Shrugs.

None of your behavior is "normal," Karen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the responses one would think these posters own out of state properties they are renting out illegally. You all just don’t have money and opportunities to do so or you’d do it. Is that it?

No. We just don't think OP is entitled to that house.

[Anonymous]

For me it’s less that OP did this, and more that she felt the need to post about it here.