New director awful. How are orgs so bad at picking competent leaders.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Excellent.
New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?
Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

FYI since you seem to need it spelled out: New Regime now. Back to the basics. Normal office hours until you prove yourself.

New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

What does your contract and company handbook actually say about your work hours OP?

Whining about a previous informal arrangement or total anarchy under the former boss ain’t going to cut it.

Or maybe you’re the DCUM troll on a tear here on the jobs section…

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

Or the director can simply not attend every single meeting that goes on in an office and upend everyone's schedule at the last minute to accommodate her.

Trusting your staff and their managers to do their job, what a crazy idea.

NP- it's not that she doesn't trust you all to do your jobs, she's trying to see what you all do in your meetings, how they're ran. I'm not a senior manager but I love to sit in on other people's staff meetings occasionally.

Then the director can lean on alllllllllll of the middle management between her and the bottom employees. If the lowest of the low employees all aren't doing something right, then it means all of management above them is doing it wrong or needs training. Everything always flows from the top down, not the bottom up. Micromanaging front line employee work for major companies as a senior leader is absolutely bonkers. You lean on all of the managers to improve their work or work output. Not upend lowest level employee schedules at the last minute so that you can micromanage their work as the most senior person in the entire office/org.

Just stop Op.

You don’t get it.

You also sound very entitled, dense, apsie and difficult to work with. Good luck at your federal govt career.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

where did op say they have a work schedule? i think that's the missing piece. if the regular schedule is 7-3 and a meeting is scheduled for 4 then that's a consideration. but I dont see that mentioned in the post.

a senior leader wanting to move a meeting to accommodate their schedule is pretty standard. They are busier than you.

We've talked about the required core hours multiple times in this thread. You can't tell everyone they have flexible schedules and that core hours are from 9-3 PM. People will take that as permission to come in at say 6:30 AM and leave by 4PM if they need to do things like pick up their kids. You can't change company policies as hoc. If you need to schedule a meeting at 4 PM, you do it in advance so people can plan, not at the last minute the night before. It can be virtually impossible these days to find last minute childcare or transportation home for children withess than 24 hours notice.

Just stop Op.

The new boss never said that 9-3 BS.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

FYI since you seem to need it spelled out: New Regime now. Back to the basics. Normal office hours until you prove yourself.

New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?

That's not what happened. No one sat down and reset expectations. They could do that. Maybe they should. But they didn't.

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What’s your org Op, is it a high performing value-add department or not, and what was the interviewing/ hiring process?

Maybe the answer is there. Right in front of you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

FYI since you seem to need it spelled out: New Regime now. Back to the basics. Normal office hours until you prove yourself.

New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?

That's not what happened. No one sat down and reset expectations. They could do that. Maybe they should. But they didn't.

Usually a good new boss observes for a few months, then makes a plan to optimize things, then the teams execute the plan.

But by all means, tell her your working hour and scheduling demands asap.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have a gripe about a meeting being changed to 4PM. Boo hoo. That's part of the workday.

The micromanaging is obviously a problem. I can see a person who is new try to really jump in to try to get a sense of everything and everyone in the organization and then pull back later when they start to trust people, but trying to edit documents for hundreds of people is nuts. I can't imagine the documents would need substantive edits by the time they get to the director.

No, it is not part of the work day. Our org has flexible hours. People come in as early as 6 AM to start work so they they can finish early and take care of their families. It causes huge strain on their familial obligations if a meeting gets changed in less than 24 hours for late in the day past 4 PM so that the terrible director can attend a meeting 5 levels below her 15 minutes late.

Now it is part of the work day.

I am willing to guess that the Director of your org. sets guidelines on flexible hours, not you.
Also, if you are exempt employees, do you all work 8 hours to the clock?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

FYI since you seem to need it spelled out: New Regime now. Back to the basics. Normal office hours until you prove yourself.

New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?

That's not what happened. No one sat down and reset expectations. They could do that. Maybe they should. But they didn't.

How old are you? 23?

Don’t new leadership start one or two weeks ago? Stop flipping out and do your job or go find another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

Unless you are a shift employee, paid by the hour clocking in and out, a profession work schedule is not 9-5 (or the equivalent beginning at 6 AM).

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I’m with you OP. If this was a couple of months into the new person’s tenure, I might feel differently. But trying to edit every document and attend all these low level meetings one year in seems extreme. I would ask, though, has this new executive been any kind of force for change? Any positive change?

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930am to 4pm should not require advance notice to meet.

If you are scheduling 8 am meetings or meetings that start at 5 pm yes.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

FYI since you seem to need it spelled out: New Regime now. Back to the basics. Normal office hours until you prove yourself.

New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?

That's not what happened. No one sat down and reset expectations. They could do that. Maybe they should. But they didn't.

How old are you? 23?

Don’t new leadership start one or two weeks ago? Stop flipping out and do your job or go find another.

I'm not OP. But yes, people will go find other jobs. Including ones who could have made the hours work, but who saw the imploding workplace around them and GTFO.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you have valid points about the micromanaging. You lost the rest of us at the outrage over a meeting time change to 4PM. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm a millennial and I have kids. I'm salaried -- while I would love to punch in my 40 hours and bounce, I work until the job is done. Sometimes late meetings are involved.

Wow, so we should pat you on the back because you're a corporate bootlicker with zero boundaries?

You're so, soooo impressive.

It's not about licking boots. If I bounce at 4 everyday to drive the soccer team carpool, who pray tell will be picking up the slack? Hint -- it's not the boss, it's my colleagues. They're the ones who pay the price for people who can't for 1 day take a late meeting, or finish up a report, or whatever it happens to be. The work still has to get done, and it is often younger or childless people who will pick up the slack and then resent the hell out of precious snowflake parents.

I love that someone thinks it’s ’licking Boots’ to be at work at 4 😂

It's not about the specific time, it's about having a work schedule and expecting to be able to stick to it. "The director wants to attend your meeting just because" is not an emergency you should make people scramble to accommodate last-minute.

FYI since you seem to need it spelled out: New Regime now. Back to the basics. Normal office hours until you prove yourself.

New senior leadership can sit down with all 800 FTEs and reset work expectations, roles & responsibilities, office hours, and turnaround times.

Things under previous “leadership” clearly got very loose, vague and ambiguous. Wonder what happened to them?

That's not what happened. No one sat down and reset expectations. They could do that. Maybe they should. But they didn't.

How old are you? 23?

Don’t new leadership start one or two weeks ago? Stop flipping out and do your job or go find another.

I'm not OP. But yes, people will go find other jobs. Including ones who could have made the hours work, but who saw the imploding workplace around them and GTFO.

Excellent, enjoy your daily car pools where only you do the driving. Smart.