Trump threatens Comey

[Anonymous]

5 pages and no one brought up that Trump also said he might consider no longer having WH press conferences?!

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. Like there really isn't much *there* there with Russia, but the goal is to send Dems into a tizzy demanding an investigation. When it doesn't reveal outright collusion, even overt graft and money laundering won't look so bad. And he's sowing the seeds of building just enough support that he will be able to remain in office. Democratic norms be damned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who's ever watched an action flick or any prime time TV has probably at some point heard cops say that phrase to a perp, "...anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law..."- apparently Trump hasn't ever encountered that piece of his advice and his lawyers haven't bothered to fill him in on that.

I don't know anymore. Information in this book I am reading on confessions can actually get a person off after all kinds of confessions. I know I sound simple to trained criminal attorneys but, I'm enthralled by what I am learning.

Confessing is not as bad an idea as movies make it out to be. But random statements tweeted to the public can be used against you. Trump has successfully gotten out of trouble in the past by shredding documents and paying fines. That won't work now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:5 pages and no one brought up that Trump also said he might consider no longer having WH press conferences?!

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. Like there really isn't much *there* there with Russia, but the goal is to send Dems into a tizzy demanding an investigation. When it doesn't reveal outright collusion, even overt graft and money laundering won't look so bad. And he's sowing the seeds of building just enough support that he will be able to remain in office. Democratic norms be damned.

Who cares if he doesn't have WH press conferences any more? There would be a bit less entertainment. And fewer lies. Beyond that, I don't care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Comey is a attention seeking loose canon who just last week mis-spoke about the magnitude of email forwarding done by Huma Abedine. I don't like Huma Abedine, but what Comey did was wrong and he potentially could do a lot of damage. The way our news agencies work, they will report without fact checking, and simply push forward sensational news if it means more viewers.

Trump is right to be concerned, and is simply reminding Comey very publicly that he should be careful about the facts he puts forward. It's a reminder also to the news networks that they should hesitate to accept what Comey has to say in light of his recent error regarding Huma Abedine.

Have you forgotten Comey's reputation for honesty? Whether he was right or wrong last year, he is still considered honest.

Honest as in he believes what he says to be true? Possibly. But honesty has limited value when you are prone to making serious mistakes in judgement, such as declaring that criminal intent is a requirement for prosecution. It's now famously called the Comey defense and you can google how many judges have laughed that out of court when someone tried to use it. Comey's position on this is so indefensible that even Huffington Post ran an article talking about it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/5-reasons-the-comey-hearing-was-the-worst-education_us_577ee999e4b05b4c02fbdcd5

At the same time that he was mis-speaking about the magnitude of email forwarding done by Huma Abedine, he went on an energetic description about how he masterfully navigated the political waters around what he saw was a DOJ that had been so compromised so as to have lost the trust of the public. He is so absorbed with his own political maneuvering that he didn't realize just how infuriating it is to the public to know that his concern was not to correct the corruption at DOJ with respect to its brazen protection of a political candidate, but how to deliver the news of non-prosecution to the public. He thinks he should be applauded for this maneuvering.

So in the end, what we can say is maybe his honesty is what revealed his incompetence, which then led to is firing.

More tin foil please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question -- why is tapes in quotes? Is just unaware of what quotation marks mean?

Because an iphone doesn't create an actual "tape"??

Has anyone watched the HBO show Masters & Johnson. Do you know that little closet room at the end of the office where the machines are that tape the conversations that happen in each room of the office? And the boxes upon boxes of tapes that they have cataloged of conversations?

This is what I picture Trump having.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forget it - for the life of me I can't figure out how to embed things in DCUM. I guess I am like Trump not knowing how to use scare quotes in that way.

Here you go:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:5 pages and no one brought up that Trump also said he might consider no longer having WH press conferences?!

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. Like there really isn't much *there* there with Russia, but the goal is to send Dems into a tizzy demanding an investigation. When it doesn't reveal outright collusion, even overt graft and money laundering won't look so bad. And he's sowing the seeds of building just enough support that he will be able to remain in office. Democratic norms be damned.

Who cares if he doesn't have WH press conferences any more? There would be a bit less entertainment. And fewer lies. Beyond that, I don't care.

Ugh, explain how we stay informed and keep him in check is there are no press conferences?

Can you explain to me the function of the press conferences and of the free press, it kind of serves a purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:5 pages and no one brought up that Trump also said he might consider no longer having WH press conferences?!

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. Like there really isn't much *there* there with Russia, but the goal is to send Dems into a tizzy demanding an investigation. When it doesn't reveal outright collusion, even overt graft and money laundering won't look so bad. And he's sowing the seeds of building just enough support that he will be able to remain in office. Democratic norms be damned.

Actually I think not having the press conferences is a good idea. Obama had very few, but Trump seems to love the drama of it all and started the daily press briefings.
I say, go fo it, don't have those press conferences. I mean, he already barred the press from his Russian meeting (and allowed the Russian photographer) so why not?

That, plus making threats on Twitter, is mind boggling. It might be best if he sticks to Twitter where everything he says can be preserved for future investigations; he can't deny it or place blame on his staff. I mean, he just pulled a Nixon this morning and it's out there for everyone to see--no matter whether Trump or staff removes it or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Comey is being threatened, will the FBI provide him with security?

Thread title is silly. Trump "threatened" Comey with the truth. "If you don't tell the truth, I'll show the world tape evidence, if there's any."

The thread title is "Trump threatens Comey"

Trump said "Comey better hope there are no tapes...."

I believe he is saying that he can pin Comey as a leaker if info comes out in the media as the conversations will have been taped and Trump can prove it went to the press from Comey. I think... but it is threatening in its manner. "he better hope".


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James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

Comey is now a private citizen. Private citizens do not "leak" they have 1st amendment protection (as long as they are not revealing classified info). Is it not troubling that the possibility of a private citizen talking to the press is now being considered a leak?

Very troubling.

[Anonymous]

Rumors have circulated for years that the Donald installed listening devices in offices throughout Trump Tower in his quixotic effort to root out "disloyal" employees. Just sayin'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:5 pages and no one brought up that Trump also said he might consider no longer having WH press conferences?!

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. Like there really isn't much *there* there with Russia, but the goal is to send Dems into a tizzy demanding an investigation. When it doesn't reveal outright collusion, even overt graft and money laundering won't look so bad. And he's sowing the seeds of building just enough support that he will be able to remain in office. Democratic norms be damned.

Who cares if he doesn't have WH press conferences any more? There would be a bit less entertainment. And fewer lies. Beyond that, I don't care.

Ugh, explain how we stay informed and keep him in check is there are no press conferences?

Can you explain to me the function of the press conferences and of the free press, it kind of serves a purpose.

Press conferences and the free press are entirely separate things. Can you explain to me why we need WH press conferences? Trump tweets enough on his own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People beginning with you are a _______. Save yourself some time and end there. If you were trying to influence or inform someone, you'd use a different approach. Otherwise, you are a showhorse not a workhorse. Your choice.

Well said! Wait, what are you saying exactly?

Seriously, because "showhorse not a workhorse" describes Trump exactly.

Okay. Then, people who are calling other posters names are emulating Trump by your own definition.

Could the poster who claimed the tweet provided the opportunity for probable cause please explain. I give you permission to belittle my intellect for asking. TIA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who's ever watched an action flick or any prime time TV has probably at some point heard cops say that phrase to a perp, "...anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law..."- apparently Trump hasn't ever encountered that piece of his advice and his lawyers haven't bothered to fill him in on that.

I don't know anymore. Information in this book I am reading on confessions can actually get a person off after all kinds of confessions. I know I sound simple to trained criminal attorneys but, I'm enthralled by what I am learning.

Confessing is not as bad an idea as movies make it out to be. But random statements tweeted to the public can be used against you. Trump has successfully gotten out of trouble in the past by shredding documents and paying fines. That won't work now.

"Being used against you" is quite a broad statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rumors have circulated for years that the Donald installed listening devices in offices throughout Trump Tower in his quixotic effort to root out "disloyal" employees. Just sayin'.

Sweet! It really will be another Watergate, then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He just suggested that there might be audio tape evidence that Comey violated DOJ rules.

He has now handed them probable cause for a warrant for Oval Office tapes.

After Watergate, the idea of tapes are wholly illegal.