What do you know about the Scotland Community in Potomac?

Anonymous
I worked for the phone company and am white. I worked many times in the Scotland development. I never once felt uncomfortable, threatened etc. Mostly everyone there was cordial and friendly towards me. They treated me kinder than most of the white Potomac residents, who were yelling at me the minute I pulled up in front of their house.
Anonymous
Back when I lived close by and first moved to that area, the people from Scotland were a welcoming bunch and stayed that way for many years as we were growing up.

I think as we got older paths started diverge and didn't really see or talk to them as much as before but still had that same friendliness with some of them when passing by each other.

I have heard of cases of nonresidents getting robbed there. But they were generally cases of people doing something that they weren't supposed to be doing in the first place.

I know some other people who weren't black and lived there due to the low costs. But personally would be hesitant about it. Similar reason to how sometimes I consider Lincoln Park but in the end always decide against it.
Anonymous
wtf is this thread? A neighborhood must be pretty decent if the only really negative thing anyone can point to is a murder over 40 years ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it still domiated by African American families, since it is pen to everyone. Most communities in MC are more mixed.


b/c its still ok to have 'historically black' communities, but not ok to still have 'historically white" ones


Basically every other neighborhood in Potomac is "Historically white"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it still domiated by African American families, since it is pen to everyone. Most communities in MC are more mixed.


b/c its still ok to have 'historically black' communities, but not ok to still have 'historically white" ones


Indeed.

Interestingly enough, even with Affirmative Action, studies are showing that AAs self-segregate on college campuses.


So do white people and asian people and hispanic people...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:wtf is this thread? A neighborhood must be pretty decent if the only really negative thing anyone can point to is a murder over 40 years ago.

Seriously...it's about a murder and a neighborhood that may or may not have housed the murderer. It's about a Cold Case that was never solved. What about her parents
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Emory Galvester Cooper "Tootie" NEVER lived on Ashley Avenue in Rockville, MD. I should know, he was my uncle. Only my grandmother lived there. And as for your remarks about Scotland always having a problem with crime. WRONG again. I know. I lived there my entire life. You need to mind your business and get you stories right. How dare you try and drag my uncle's name through the mud, now RESEARCH THAT!!!!!!!


Actually, there are several Circuit Court for Montgomery County--Criminal System Records showing he DID live at 221 Ashley Ave., Rockville, including case # 42677C, 44500C, 44579C, 50450C, 50630C, 52486C; along with District Court for Montgomery County--Criminal System Records 0069633D4 and 00071702D. He certainly lived at that address in 1964--long before you were born.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woops, I meant "Edith Anita Welch-Williams".


why was her last name Williams and not Welch, like her parents? Was she married? Only 3 months out of high school and she was married? Maybe she was married to someone from Tobytown or Scotland?


Edith Anita Welch married Neal Hearly Williams, aka "Nick" in December 1963. They separated 9 months later. That is the reason she was Welch-Williams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The statement below from 1/7/2015 starting out as Edith Anita Welch only, not Williams, is only what the Montgomery County Police presumed happened and there was no way for them to confirm these as facts. Montgomery County Police did not solve this cold case and never will.


I don't know how you think they "presumed"? They had someone come forward and say that they had information on the crime. Unfortunately Emory Galvester Cooper, Jr. "Tootie" was already dead (1992). They talked to Thurman Baker "Shorty." He denied knowledge of the crime at first, but changed his story. Before anything could be done to Baker, he died. (Long history of drug use). If you look at the circumstances of the crime--where she was abducted, how she was abducted (exactly the same 2 other crimes Tootie committed in the area--one of which he was convicted of--and went to prison), and where her body was found (Cooper's family land in Scotland) it makes sense. Combined I'd say the Montgomery County Police solved this one. Her name WAS Edith Anita Williams at the time of her death. She had married Neal Hearly Williams "Nick" in December 1963. They separated in August 1964. They had not divorced; therefore she was Edith Anita Welch-Williams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it still domiated by African American families, since it is pen to everyone. Most communities in MC are more mixed.


b/c its still ok to have 'historically black' communities, but not ok to still have 'historically white" ones


?????

Potomac, Bethesda, and Chevy Chase have plenty of communities that are overwhelmingly white.


Which are frowned upon with affordable housing inserted every chance they get. Braking up black neighborhoods is bad but breaking up white neighborhoods is just apparently.


Potomac, Bethesda, and Chevy Chase have been 'broken up" by people "inserting affordable housing"? I'm not sure I even know what that means. Can you clarify?



Pay attention to the local zoning meetings on Montgomery County Channels and to the Obama Administrations new policies on moving as many "section 8" families with vouchers into these neighborhoods as possible. Do your homework, recent developments on the planning board are calling for more low income housing in Bethesda and the surrounding areas. Are you even aware of the two condo/apartment projects on Ridgefield Road that are low income housing? Probably not, because you don't pay attention. And the vouchers for a lot of the larger newer apartment projects in downtown Bethesda are apparent if you happen to live in that area. Montgomery County is a sanctuary city and with that the County houses many illegal families with vouchers throughout the county. The schools are showing the strain of this because very often the tax dollars are not there to support additional classrooms for these families, therefore the growth in class size in Montgomery County and the ESL percentage has increased dramatically.
Anonymous
You do know MoCo has had an affordable housing law on the books since the 70's, right? Google MPDU history and learn more before you blame Obama for something that is before his time...
Anonymous
This video, "Where Does the American Dream Live" from the New York Times is well worth watching: http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004655947/where-does-the-american-dream-live.html?smid=fb-share

Anonymous
Also see this article—discussing what Montgomery County accomplished in terms of “Fair Housing”: https://www.propublica.org/article/living-apart-how-the-government-betrayed-a-landmark-civil-rights-law


--LIVING APART: HOW THE GOVERNMENT BETRAYED A LANDMARK CIVIL RIGHTS LAW--
by: Nikole Hannah-Jones, 06/25/15

The Wealthy County that Could:

“Without prodding from HUD or federal officials, the council for Montgomery County, Md., moved in the 1970s to enact a zoning ordinance that required developers to include affordable units in each large development.

Montgomery County seemed an implausible place for such a move. The 92 percent-white suburb bordered on 65-percent black Washington, D.C. and had desegregated its schools just a decade before. But the civil rights struggles of the 1960s brought a new generation into local government. They were shocked when a study found that many African Americans in the county lived in *shacks that lacked running water or sewer connections.

[*Note--They were referring to SCOTLAND COMMUNITY].

"We saw the segregation," said Joyce Siegel, county housing commissioner at the time. "It was a fairness issue — that one part of the county wasn't going to have more affordable housing than another. **We had to be fair."

[**Note—Joyce Siegel and Geneva Mason played a big part in the “Save our Scotland,” an organization devoted to improving living conditions in SCOTLAND COMMUNITY in 1964-65. They were instrumental in getting HUD to provide a government grant for the construction homes in the community.]

The Suburban Maryland Fair Housing group, which had been fighting real estate covenants, joined forces with the League of Women Voters. They championed an ordinance that would ensure decent housing for African Americans and lower-income people and bar the county from concentrating its affordable housing in desolate pockets. The proposed law said any development of more than 50 units (it has since been lowered to 20) must set aside no less than 15 percent of the housing for lower-income residents. Even more radical, the ordinance allowed the county to purchase up to a third of the affordable units for use as public housing. No community within the county's jurisdiction was excluded.

The measure met fervid resistance from many suburban communities within the county. At one point, Siegel said, she needed a police escort. It took six years to pass the law. One advocate brought a birthday cake before the council each year to mark its failure. When the council finally approved the legislation in 1973, the county executive vetoed it, only to see his veto over-ridden. The ordinance became law in January 1974, a time when other cities and towns were rushing to put up zoning barriers to keep out lower-income housing. Montgomery County's law was the first such zoning ordinance in the country, and it has spurred construction of more than 13,000 affordable housing units tucked into some of the county's most exclusive zip codes.

From the standpoint of desegregation, Montgomery County has become a model of what could have been.

Over three decades, its black population more than tripled to 18 percent. It remains one of the nation's richest counties, yet segregation has fallen well below the national average.”

Anonymous
I remember when I was 10 I lived in section 8 in Potomac with my dad idk what the neighborhood was called but it was like a few row houses with the section 8 people(nicest section 8 ive ever seen tho) and then across the street was some giant houses it was right next to a small ugly lake could anyone tell me what that area is called ?


also I remember felling so much safer there compared to the Hampton's in Germanton or event Church hill east in Germanton these black community's in Potomac sound like cheap living when I graduate high school I want to go to mc would any residents recommended that area over like the Hampton's in Germantown b/c I fell like it cant be that un safe thought's?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I remember when I was 10 I lived in section 8 in Potomac with my dad idk what the neighborhood was called but it was like a few row houses with the section 8 people(nicest section 8 ive ever seen tho) and then across the street was some giant houses it was right next to a small ugly lake could anyone tell me what that area is called ?


also I remember felling so much safer there compared to the Hampton's in Germanton or event Church hill east in Germanton these black community's in Potomac sound like cheap living when I graduate high school I want to go to mc would any residents recommended that area over like the Hampton's in Germantown b/c I fell like it cant be that un safe thought's?


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