Just figured out why I'm so fat

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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch. I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time. But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely.


Have you tried eating more for breakfast? What you are suggesting as being satisfying meals are not really a lot of calories or protein. Honestly, try adding some cottage cheese to up your protein and oatmeal and see if you feel better. Personally, if I can get ahead of my hunger in the morning I don't hit that hangry point.


3eggs, plus 1 tsp oil +broccoli, +apple+collagen and unsweetened almond milk creamer in my coffee =445 calories (not my everyday breakfast, but most days). It does have a balance of protein fat and fiber. I feel like I’m eating a lot! My sister in law would be the one having an English muffin and fine until lunch. I would rather save some of my calories for dinner with my family, but I could see about adding in some cottage cheese


My hunger tamer was a serving of oatmeal or quinoa in the morning. Fruits, nuts and egg added to it.
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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch. I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time. But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely.


Have you tried eating more for breakfast? What you are suggesting as being satisfying meals are not really a lot of calories or protein. Honestly, try adding some cottage cheese to up your protein and oatmeal and see if you feel better. Personally, if I can get ahead of my hunger in the morning I don't hit that hangry point.


3eggs, plus 1 tsp oil +broccoli, +apple+collagen and unsweetened almond milk creamer in my coffee =445 calories (not my everyday breakfast, but most days). It does have a balance of protein fat and fiber. I feel like I’m eating a lot! My sister in law would be the one having an English muffin and fine until lunch. I would rather save some of my calories for dinner with my family, but I could see about adding in some cottage cheese


My hunger tamer was a serving of oatmeal or quinoa in the morning. Fruits, nuts and egg added to it.


Thanks! I’ll try oatmeal with eggs added. I’ve never done both
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, your lunch should not be as much food as your dinner.


The size of your lunch or dinner doesn't matter. It's your total calories. I eat more than half my daily calories after 5pm. But overall, I am not eating more than I burn, so I maintain my weight. When you eat your calories doesn't matter.


No, it's actually what your individual body does with those calories. Four people can eat an apple and their bodies will react 4 totally different ways.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, your lunch should not be as much food as your dinner.


The size of your lunch or dinner doesn't matter. It's your total calories. I eat more than half my daily calories after 5pm. But overall, I am not eating more than I burn, so I maintain my weight. When you eat your calories doesn't matter.


No, it's actually what your individual body does with those calories. Four people can eat an apple and their bodies will react 4 totally different ways.


That is short stroke on a golf course stuff. It doesn’t explain the wild obesity crisis the world is experiencing.

People want to assign significance to all sorts of factors except their own behavior.
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Just be lazier. At the beginning of each week I take four individual yogurts and a bag of granola to work. I eat them together almost every day for lunch. I can’t be bothered to make myself lunch after I pack my kid’s lunches and nothing ever sounds good in the morning. Sometimes I’ll bring a sleeve of crackers and half of a pack of cheese slices for the week. Or a tub of hummus and a bag of crackers. Sometimes I’ll make a lentil salad and scoop it up with crackers.

My dinners are nutritious and I usually eat baked oatmeal every day for breakfast, again, lazy.

I maintain a decent weight and my labs are good at age 40. If I get hungry during the day I’ll usually guzzle some water or eat a Lara bar which I also keep a stash of.
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I’m sure that if they’re making it to 91 their diet has something to do with it.
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Anonymous wrote:Just be lazier. At the beginning of each week I take four individual yogurts and a bag of granola to work. I eat them together almost every day for lunch. I can’t be bothered to make myself lunch after I pack my kid’s lunches and nothing ever sounds good in the morning. Sometimes I’ll bring a sleeve of crackers and half of a pack of cheese slices for the week. Or a tub of hummus and a bag of crackers. Sometimes I’ll make a lentil salad and scoop it up with crackers.

My dinners are nutritious and I usually eat baked oatmeal every day for breakfast, again, lazy.

I maintain a decent weight and my labs are good at age 40. If I get hungry during the day I’ll usually guzzle some water or eat a Lara bar which I also keep a stash of.


People should post their body fat percentage too. A sleeve crackers and cheese is a terrible lunch.
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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch. I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time. But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely.


Have you tried eating more for breakfast? What you are suggesting as being satisfying meals are not really a lot of calories or protein. Honestly, try adding some cottage cheese to up your protein and oatmeal and see if you feel better. Personally, if I can get ahead of my hunger in the morning I don't hit that hangry point.


3eggs, plus 1 tsp oil +broccoli, +apple+collagen and unsweetened almond milk creamer in my coffee =445 calories (not my everyday breakfast, but most days). It does have a balance of protein fat and fiber. I feel like I’m eating a lot! My sister in law would be the one having an English muffin and fine until lunch. I would rather save some of my calories for dinner with my family, but I could see about adding in some cottage cheese


My hunger tamer was a serving of oatmeal or quinoa in the morning. Fruits, nuts and egg added to it.


Thanks! I’ll try oatmeal with eggs added. I’ve never done both


DP, I eat oatmeal with egg and egg whites for breakfast too. I mix it all up and add spices depending on my mood. I love it.
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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch. I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time. But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely.


Have you tried eating more for breakfast? What you are suggesting as being satisfying meals are not really a lot of calories or protein. Honestly, try adding some cottage cheese to up your protein and oatmeal and see if you feel better. Personally, if I can get ahead of my hunger in the morning I don't hit that hangry point.


3eggs, plus 1 tsp oil +broccoli, +apple+collagen and unsweetened almond milk creamer in my coffee =445 calories (not my everyday breakfast, but most days). It does have a balance of protein fat and fiber. I feel like I’m eating a lot! My sister in law would be the one having an English muffin and fine until lunch. I would rather save some of my calories for dinner with my family, but I could see about adding in some cottage cheese


My hunger tamer was a serving of oatmeal or quinoa in the morning. Fruits, nuts and egg added to it.


Thanks! I’ll try oatmeal with eggs added. I’ve never done both


Sure, add a scrambled egg into masala oats with veggies. Or eat an egg separately and add fruits and nuts to oatmeal.

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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch. I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time. But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely.


I’m sorry that does sound tough. My friend who was early stage diabetes started Ozempic and said she suddenly stopped thinking about food all the time and felt less hungry. It sounds like maybe you have a hormonal or some other issue going on causing your vide to crave more food.

The whole reason I disclaimed my good metabolism was not to be smug but because I know there is a genetic element and I didn’t want to be disingenuous that you can willpower your way through.

I was just trying to share what works for me as far as following my hunger cues and not feeling socially conditioned to eat. This won’t work for everyone if there are underlying medical issues, but maybe it can help someone who has a preconditioned idea of how to eat that is based on norms they grew up with and more than they actually need to eat.
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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch. I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time. But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely.


What do you mean by healthfully? You keep repeating it but do you mean low fat? Balanced? Do you exercise? And are you sure you’re overweight and not just aiming for a number on the scale that is simply unrealistic for you?

Do you exercise regularly? I tend to eat more when I don’t exercise. Do you get enough sleep?

I’ve never been the type of person who’s filled with a small cup of yoghurt (unless I had a feast the evening before). I don’t particularly enjoy yogurt, and it just doesn’t fill me.

I don’t snack though and prefer eating 1 or 2 large meals that fill me up and also satisfy my mind. I’d be hungry after eating yogurt cause my mind would be looking for something better to eat.

Also, check if all ok in terms of endocrinology.
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Yep, it's usually no mystery why people weight what they do. My sister in law is skinny as a rail. And she eats like a bird. Takes the tortilla off her tacos, eats her hamburger wrapped in lettuce instead of a bun, takes fruit as an appetizer instead of chips and dip, never has dessert. I envy her discipline.
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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out.
Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.



I mean…


CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock.


But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.


My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.


I think I have a similar appetite to you; I eat what I want when I want it and don’t do scheduled meals or mealtimes. I think, though, this is what allows us maintain a lower calorie intake.

A lot of this is so individual. I have no impulse to clean my plate or snack when I’m not hungry. When I’m stressed or busy I can easily forget to eat. My mom, on the other hand, needs to be regimented about eating specific things at specific times. She is always hungry, eats when stressed etc. so she needs to monitor her food intake.

At the end of the day, it’s about cico for most people but how people do cico looks different.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep, it's usually no mystery why people weight what they do. My sister in law is skinny as a rail. And she eats like a bird. Takes the tortilla off her tacos, eats her hamburger wrapped in lettuce instead of a bun, takes fruit as an appetizer instead of chips and dip, never has dessert. I envy her discipline.


It’s called willpower. Some of us have it.
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