“Homeschoolers are weird”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They come from a variety of backgrounds (usually extreme in one way or another , rarely from parents who are “basic”- not that it’s a bad thing for parents not to be “basic”- most highly interesting individuals are not!) but one thing they share is a lack of experience with group socialization and learning to conform when appropriate. Not everyone in a society can be an orchid and solely focus on what is interesting to them day in and day out.

Yeah - I wanted my kid to learn to socialize with other kids. I sent her to public school for 12 years. When she never got the hang of it we learned that she has ASD. It’s possible many of the homeschooled kids you’re meeting wouldn’t have gotten those schools in a public environment wither. Correlation does not equal causation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They come from a variety of backgrounds (usually extreme in one way or another , rarely from parents who are “basic”- not that it’s a bad thing for parents not to be “basic”- most highly interesting individuals are not!) but one thing they share is a lack of experience with group socialization and learning to conform when appropriate. Not everyone in a society can be an orchid and solely focus on what is interesting to them day in and day out.

Yeah - I wanted my kid to learn to socialize with other kids. I sent her to public school for 12 years. When she never got the hang of it we learned that she has ASD. It’s possible many of the homeschooled kids you’re meeting wouldn’t have gotten those schools in a public environment wither. Correlation does not equal causation.

You’re right I’m sure- hence the stereotype of homeschooling kids are “weird”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They come from a variety of backgrounds (usually extreme in one way or another , rarely from parents who are “basic”- not that it’s a bad thing for parents not to be “basic”- most highly interesting individuals are not!) but one thing they share is a lack of experience with group socialization and learning to conform when appropriate. Not everyone in a society can be an orchid and solely focus on what is interesting to them day in and day out.

Yeah - I wanted my kid to learn to socialize with other kids. I sent her to public school for 12 years. When she never got the hang of it we learned that she has ASD. It’s possible many of the homeschooled kids you’re meeting wouldn’t have gotten those schools in a public environment wither. Correlation does not equal causation.

You’re right I’m sure- hence the stereotype of homeschooling kids are “weird”.

Oof I meant “skills” and “either.”

Anyway - yes. They can be weird. For all kinds of reasons. Like all kinds of humans. Humans are weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They come from a variety of backgrounds (usually extreme in one way or another , rarely from parents who are “basic”- not that it’s a bad thing for parents not to be “basic”- most highly interesting individuals are not!) but one thing they share is a lack of experience with group socialization and learning to conform when appropriate. Not everyone in a society can be an orchid and solely focus on what is interesting to them day in and day out.

Yeah - I wanted my kid to learn to socialize with other kids. I sent her to public school for 12 years. When she never got the hang of it we learned that she has ASD. It’s possible many of the homeschooled kids you’re meeting wouldn’t have gotten those schools in a public environment wither. Correlation does not equal causation.

You’re right I’m sure- hence the stereotype of homeschooling kids are “weird”.

Oof I meant “skills” and “either.”

Anyway - yes. They can be weird. For all kinds of reasons. Like all kinds of humans. Humans are weird.

Of course. Everyone is different! But the OPs question was why is there this stereotype that homeschool kids are “weird” and you pretty much answered it. Because many of them are on the spectrum and that’s why they are homeschooled, because that environment is easier for them (as long as it’s feasible for their parents)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

Homeschooled kids develop social skills from dealing with adults all day. These are in fact superior to the social skills developed as a result of dealing with other kids all day in the warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school. Try again!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

Homeschooled kids develop social skills from dealing with adults all day. These are in fact superior to the social skills developed as a result of dealing with other kids all day in the warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school. Try again!

Let’s say you’re correct. That’s how you end up with a 9 year old who prefers talking with adults as opposed to kids when at a playground- hence, why the kid is considered weird by others. Answering “why are homeschool kids considered weird”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

Homeschooled kids develop social skills from dealing with adults all day. These are in fact superior to the social skills developed as a result of dealing with other kids all day in the warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school. Try again!

Then why can’t homeschool kids easily make friends with other kids that live near them, if they have superior social skills? (Generalizing of course)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

Homeschooled kids develop social skills from dealing with adults all day. These are in fact superior to the social skills developed as a result of dealing with other kids all day in the warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school. Try again!

Let’s say you’re correct. That’s how you end up with a 9 year old who prefers talking with adults as opposed to kids when at a playground- hence, why the kid is considered weird by others. Answering “why are homeschool kids considered weird”

This is PP. I am correct, and yes, that is exactly what homeschool kids are considered weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

Homeschooled kids develop social skills from dealing with adults all day. These are in fact superior to the social skills developed as a result of dealing with other kids all day in the warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school. Try again!

Defensive fundie back again?
No, their social skills are not superior, they are not even on par. This is one major reason why people think homeschooled kids are weird. Because this is the exact thing they lack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with home schooled kids, both as a child and now was a scout leader, rec league coach, and parent is that they are used to everything being about them.

If they have a thought, they share it and they expect everyone to stop and listen to them.

If they want to do or say something, or changes an activity, they are very confused when they aren't permitted to do that.

They are generally respectful and polite. But they definitely think they are the main character, even when its their turn to the NPC.

They just don't "get" some of the social expectations of them, that other kids do.

And now, as an employer, I can almost always pinpoint when a resource was home-schooled.

Got it, regular schools teach kids to be NPCs who know they are supposed to shut up until the teacher calls on them, and that's what you want as an employer.

Being in a regular school requires kids to develop social skills. as a matter of necessity to manage relationships with peers and outsiders. Homeschooling them denies them this opportunity to develop those social skills.

Homeschooled kids develop social skills from dealing with adults all day. These are in fact superior to the social skills developed as a result of dealing with other kids all day in the warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school. Try again!

Setting aside what is and is not "superior" - those are abnormal skills. The vast majority of children are socialized all day in what you call this "warehouse of bullying, cliquishness, and immaturity that is regular school" For good or ill, that is the case. And the 10% of kids socialized differently will be different - "weird" compared to the other 90%.

[Anonymous]

Homeschoolers want to have it both ways. They think that any kid that goes to a regular public school is damaged by the hideous environment at those schools, and that, of course, their kids will be different than kids who go to regular schools. But if you point out that homeschooled kids are, in fact, different, they get on their high horse about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the “homeschoolers are weird” trope come from? Most of the homeschoolers I have met are intelligent and interesting, and have unique passions.

Your experience clearly does not reflect the larger societal experience. The only homeschooled people (kids) I knew growing up were religious fundies who were absolutely weird, annoying, lacked social skills, talked down to normal kids and were quite far behind in actual intelligence and learning. They seemed to feel superior to others but really had nothing or any justification to back it up.

And you are basing yours on decades old information from a tiny subset of kids. Homeschooling is now millions of kids, so your stereotypes are outdated and irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only interactions I had growing up were with mormons. The girls were all married off at 17/18 as soon as they "graduated". I don't think they actually did any actual education, it was a religious education and a wife/mom-to-be school. Really sad how their lives turned out.

This makes me laugh, because homeschooling was and is still not common among LDS church members. Until a few years ago, there was a lot of social stigma within the church against homeschooling because it is considered a rejection of societal norms and hierarchy. Or maybe you mean fundamentalists who practice polygamy, who I would not consider part of the "Mormon Church."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homeschoolers want to have it both ways. They think that any kid that goes to a regular public school is damaged by the hideous environment at those schools, and that, of course, their kids will be different than kids who go to regular schools. But if you point out that homeschooled kids are, in fact, different, they get on their high horse about it.

I think if you read through this thread and substituted the name of any other group, you would be pretty shocked at the level of insults and ignorance that abounds. I think all socially normal people would be offended by the comments. It is also ironic that real homeschoolers can say virtually nothing in the DCUM Homeschooling Forum because of the prevalence of people like this, who with virtually no knowledge of homeschooling, constantly hurl insults or demand increased regulation. Get your own house in order before trying to police others.