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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.
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DP. There need to be SB members who will challenge each other both in private and public. We don’t have that now; it hasn’t worked out well; and that’s why many of us who generally lean left and vote Democratic want to disrupt the current echo chamber. It’s missing the point to simply focus on whether Ds “suck” or the GOP candidates are “worse.” They are basically the choices we have right now and what we ought to do is ensure that neither party completely dominates the SB again (which, realistically, means making sure there are a least a few R or I members to challenge the next D majority).
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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.
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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?


DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.


NP. Agree.


Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?


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It's not hard to believe that parents and teachers are not happy. What is difficult, is to believe that the explosion in threads about declining quality of FCPS as we near elections, and the reason for it being attributed to woke SB, equity, DEI, CRT, trans athletes, and other left wing faults, is not politically motivated.

What I would like is this. I would like each SB candidate to address the actual issue that teachers and parents are unhappy, and that we're failing our students. What policies would they implement, to stop the bleeding of teachers? What are they planning to do to close achievement gap? What are they planning to do, to bring scores back up? What policies would be implemented, to hold students accountable for their behavior, without penalizing POC for their skin color? When we do hear about schools in Republican run states, it's always something negative, about banning books, and other culture war issues. Banning books, or burning them, or keeping trans kids from using bathrooms of the gender they identify with, is not going to make teachers happy, it's not going to bring test scores up, it's not going to get kids with less support to achieve.

So, what IS the plan if we change the composition of the SB?

The problem is that no one actually talks about what they will actually do. It's always about how they're not like <insert bad guy here>. It is not helpful to the Republican cause that by and large, they cannot point to red states, or cities, or school districts with a large and diverse population like ours, where they have been successful in addressing problems.

I think the answer is pretty clear.

Just stop.

Stop changing everything to suit a small number of student who fail no matter what.

I don’t want a new SB to solve anything. I just want them to stop doing what the current SB has been doing.

Give my kids novels and homework in middle and elementary. Stop E3 math from eventually preventing 7th grade Algebra. Punish violent behavior and drug use with stronger punishments.

There is no need for new solutions as we already did all these things 5-7 years ago. These solutions aren’t hard but they do require accepting that certain efforts can no longer be viable. And equity is a big part of that.
Similar arguments like this were probably made when the feds forced states to integrate schools in the 1960s.
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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.


People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.

Isn’t “equity” a problem that FCPS needs to answer someone for? (The Federal
government? The state?). It (The achievement gap) just doesn’t go away bc you don’t address it. So how are these candidates addressing it?
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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.


People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.

Isn’t “equity” a problem that FCPS needs to answer someone for? (The Federal
government? The state?). It (The achievement gap) just doesn’t go away bc you don’t address it. So how are these candidates addressing it?

They can’t. This is a family problem. Not a school one.
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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.


People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.

Isn’t “equity” a problem that FCPS needs to answer someone for? (The Federal
government? The state?). It (The achievement gap) just doesn’t go away bc you don’t address it. So how are these candidates addressing it?

They can’t. This is a family problem. Not a school one.

I mean don’t the federal and state governments require school districts to show they are trying to close the achievement gap? Don’t school districts have to abide by 504/IEPs (I.e, I hear teachers say sometimes they can’t discipline students bc of the threat of being sued for not following such and such plan)? The SB can’t just say “meh we don’t have to deal with it.”
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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.


So they are clueless.

Find a rational, informed candidate if you want coherent SB discussion. Until then…
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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.


People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.

Isn’t “equity” a problem that FCPS needs to answer someone for? (The Federal
government? The state?). It (The achievement gap) just doesn’t go away bc you don’t address it. So how are these candidates addressing it?

They can’t. This is a family problem. Not a school one.

I mean don’t the federal and state governments require school districts to show they are trying to close the achievement gap? Don’t school districts have to abide by 504/IEPs (I.e, I hear teachers say sometimes they can’t discipline students bc of the threat of being sued for not following such and such plan)? The SB can’t just say “meh we don’t have to deal with it.”


Yes. If there is too much disparity between racial groups or students with disabilities schools lose state/federal funding.
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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.

Isn’t “equity” a problem that FCPS needs to answer someone for? (The Federal
government? The state?). It (The achievement gap) just doesn’t go away bc you don’t address it. So how are these candidates addressing it?

They can’t. This is a family problem. Not a school one.

I mean don’t the federal and state governments require school districts to show they are trying to close the achievement gap? Don’t school districts have to abide by 504/IEPs (I.e, I hear teachers say sometimes they can’t discipline students bc of the threat of being sued for not following such and such plan)? The SB can’t just say “meh we don’t have to deal with it.”


Yes. If there is too much disparity between racial groups or students with disabilities schools lose state/federal funding.


They repealed NCLB years ago. Now schools get more oversight and more money when they're failing.
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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.


It’s better than the alternative.


Better be devil you know?

No, thank you. I'm ready to try a change.


+100
This obstinate, "I'll never vote for a Republican!" attitude is even more stupid considering the same people will continue complaining about the SB when Democrats are all elected - yet again. What's the definition of insanity again?
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People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.


There actually were several posts saying that all they want is for the school board to drop its focus on social issues and instead focus on improving academics for all students. That would be a huge step in the right direction, and having a few Republicans on the board to make sure that happens is common sense. Twelve Democrats only creates a ridiculous echo chamber of "progressive" idiocy. Maybe you're fine with the SB wasting hours and hours on things like renaming schools, or making sure their curriculum has the words "equity, intersectionality, and anti-racist" 5 million times, as well as a bunch of other nonsense jargon that NO ONE cares about? I would prefer all of that be cut out and the SB spend their time beefing up academics, period.

Bringing back phonics was something many parents - conservative and moderate alike - had been begging FCPS to do for years. The only reason they finally did was because the NAACP asked them to. It's just nutty. Why couldn't they have done that long ago, seeing how their "whole word" system was NOT teaching children to read? These people are failing. Why on earth would anyone vote them in again?
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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.


People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.

And I think you are naive (and that’s putting it nicely) to believe the other guys will be better. Yes I have a problem with the status quo—but I’m saying the alternative-as it stands-is worse. Do you get that? You (general you) keep harping about the Dems and the stupid SB but none of you have actually said how the GOP aligned candidates would make it better. People have asked in multiple threads. How would these candidates change things up in FCPS? How are Republican led boards championing academics elsewhere in the country? Are red districts emphasizing academics and getting better results? And the response is—well the current board sucks, everything has sucked, the Democrats ruined it all! Great but that still doesn’t answer any of the aforementioned questions.

This has already been answered. Many candidates are against equity efforts. That’s enough to stop the problems most people are actually interested in.

Equity is the academic problem many seek to solve.

Isn’t “equity” a problem that FCPS needs to answer someone for? (The Federal
government? The state?). It (The achievement gap) just doesn’t go away bc you don’t address it. So how are these candidates addressing it?


DP. Please tell us: what EXACTLY should be done to address "equity"? The left loves to insert that word into everything they say. Tell us what you think it means and how the SB should be "addressing it."
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Anonymous wrote:No surprise.

Last month Youngkin declared 1/2 of 3-8 graders failed or may fail Reading SOL and 2/3 of 3-8 graders failed or may fail Math SOL.

Youngkin’s Solution? Get volunteer parents to teach Reaching and Math.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/all-in-tutoring


Will Youngkin ask the passing students to teach the failing students next?


I guess there is no need for Youngkin to intervene regarding the student teaching students.

FCPS high school students have already set up an organization to teach other poor performing students at various Fairfax county libraries. http://www.giveyouth.org
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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.


People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.


DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

I’m not voting completely D but mostly bc the alternative is terrible PP. If you had moderate, sensible alternatives—then yes I would vote for them. But I actually did research those alternatives. Their platforms. Their social media. And most importantly who they were endorsed by… Have you?
So no, I’m not voting for them. So yeah people like me right now are hoping the Democrats get their crap together bc their ineptitude will just ensure that the guys who really don’t GAF about public education (beyond FCPS) win.


You are extremely naive (and that's being generous) if you actually think the Dems will get "their crap together." If you are dissatisfied with the job the current SB is doing, and you're continuing to vote for Dems, then I sorry - you deserve whatever you get.


It’s better than the alternative.


Better be devil you know?

No, thank you. I'm ready to try a change.


+100
This obstinate, "I'll never vote for a Republican!" attitude is even more stupid considering the same people will continue complaining about the SB when Democrats are all elected - yet again. What's the definition of insanity again?

Again-are you actually reading the responses? Not “I’ll never vote for a Republican” but rather I will not vote for the Republican options presented after doing research.
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