Macalester vs Kenyon vs Oberlin for science major

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Anonymous wrote:We just got back from visiting Kenyon as our STEM DD got in RD. Unfortunately, she was rejected from Oberlin, which was her top choice, mainly for the sciences (regret not having done ED, when she would have had a chance).

She was choosing between Kenyon anc Bryn Mawr. We liked both campuses. But chose BM for three reasons. 1. Kenyon didn't seem to emphasize STEM. All we heard about was writing, which was fine, but not what DD wants to do. 2. Kenyon truly is in the middle of nowhere. There is the college bookstore and a coffee shop and post office that makes up the town, and then literally nothing for miles. We drove on a country road for nearly an hour before we got there. Calling it isolated would be an understatement. 3. I recognize it might be just who we met, but the students were much preppier and maybe frattier (although not full on bro): than we expected. I'm guessing that they draw heavily from Midwestern suburbs.

I'm sure Kenyon is the right place for lots of students, but we felt maybe not the best place for our STEM DD coming from DC.

So odd to hear this as we just took a science tour at Kenyon and heard that a large number of students hail from the nyc , Ne boarding schools and LA. Hardly the Midwest suburbs! So funny we got such different impressions and info. It is very remote, that I agree with and seems to self select.


Yeah it’s just wrong. NY and California are most represented states. Sure, more Midwestern kids there vs New England schools but that is a strength. Kenyon is one of a handful of strong LACs in the Midwest and therefore attracts a lot of regional talent. Many more options for northeastern kids to go to a LAC within a half day drive.
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Anonymous wrote:Of the three, Oberlin probably has the strongest science departments. A lot of its students go on to PhD programs.


+1. I have an Obie in a sciences field who is planning to work for a year and get a PhD. Two years of research with a prof. Plus a summer of research. Who is their “mentor” and a co-author on 1-2 papers. A study abroad with a research component specific to their interest. Getting ready to present at a conference. Is working with the school on their personal statement. After the Conservatory, sciences is Oberlin’s strongest area.

That said, my kid also applied to Mac and Kenyon and was accepted, also with merit. Kenyon is lovely, but more remote and stronger in humanities (esp writing and English) than science. I think that’s your third place choice in terms of science pre-PhD.

I loved Mac, which had a lovely, walkable suburban campus and was also strong in my kid’s area of science. But neither my kid, nor their sibling 3 years later, liked the school when they visited. It was very, very white. Sibling also passed on Oberlin.

Mac and Oberlin are schools you need to visit. I will cheerlead Oberlin’s science department. But doing well at Oberlin is really about fit, so I would never insist it’s the best school for your specific kid. You also need to visit Mac. Not sure why it raised such negative feelings in my kids— maybe the lack of diversity after the DMV?


+1. My kid did Oberlin and then an ivy. Teaching at Oberlin is top notch, comparable with top schools anywhere in the world.
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