BOE - who are people voting for?

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

Perhaps the Montgomery County delegation wasn't solidly in favor of it and abandoned it, or it was pushed down the priority list during the pandemic?

Or realized that that 60k still isn't going to attract a lot of folks to what should be a full time plus job for a professional. Double that, and you *might* start to get more qualified folks in the pool. Look at what Council and higher end county staffers make.

So what if board members have other full time jobs? Can they do both effectively?

They should be taking this as a full-time obligation (and their primary, if not only, job) if we expect effective oversight of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise with about 200,000 direct stakeholders among students and staff. How many highly-paid County Council personnel are there, including council members, themselves, who oversee a budget of similar size when the MCPS piece is removed? Do these council members keep a primary alternate job?

Hidiyat is a full time airline pilot. I highly doubt he's willing to give that up (or cut back) so that he can play school board.

Not that I was going to vote for Hidiyat anyway since his only platform goal appears to be to reinstate SROs, but his being a full-time pilot is a non-starter for me. He won't have time for the board.

Assuming he has some seniority at his airline, then he can pick his schedule. BOE meetinsg are known well in advance, so it will be easy to schedule around them.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the full Moderately MoCo Forum:

I think Shebra and Lynne really did a horrible job defending their track record and making the case for why they should be re-elected. They really need to retool their talking points because what they're doing and saying now is NOT working.

I liked Rita Montoya the best. That's probably the only Apple Ballot candidate I'll vote for.

I'm finding this hard. As usual I know a bit about some folks but not enough about everyone, so I still have research to do.

I do know Rita Montoya a bit. If I didn't know her I would vote for her. However, having direct experience with her for the past few years through the school system she's off my list. Her actions and decision-making at the direct student/teacher level don't match her campaign rhetoric for me, so my vote will go elsewhere.

Please elaborate. That's the feeling I get about her too but I don't have firsthand experience with her to suss out if that's the case.

She seems like she's playing a part. And I like the part she's playing but I don't know if that's genuinely how she feels and thinks.

I just haven't found her leadership to be as unbiased, fact based, or inclusive as I expected. She is very smart and committed, I just haven't seen an ability to weigh all sides and effectively reach resolution when dealing with a mix of administration/faculty/students and parents. I've seen damage done - unintentionally, I'm sure, she seems earnest and well meaning - but damage nonetheless. But maybe she'd be better in this kind of leadership role than in the more direct engagement. I hate when I have to vote without sufficient information, so this is a rare instance of me having some direct knowledge, but even that knowledge is limited and therefore flawed. And I really care about the Board of Education so I'm trying to get it right on what little I can discern. So challenging...

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Anonymous wrote:Of all the candidates, Hidayat has the most campaign money to spend:

https://www.mymcmedia.org/board-of-education-candidates-list-contributions-expenditures/

He seems mostly focused on turning schools into kid prisons with little interest in education.

I really feel this is the opposite for him. He's interested in getting kids help right away so they can focus on education and not be a burden later. I think he has good intentions on that end of things.

Oh BS

He has no clue what education is.

He’s an ex police officer zero qualifications for a BOE and his behavior at the moderately MOCO forum was absurd, childish.

I read someone else posted a similar comment, but when I watched the forum recording, he seemed fine. What part was childish? When he said it was the twilight zone? Why should MCPS pay a million dollar buy out while telling parents they don't have money for special education?

If I'm missing something else in the video, please let me know, I'd love to watch again. I didn't see anything absurd or childish, but admittedly I may have missed it.

Throwing his paddle. Saying the same thing with zero substance over and over again. He has lots of buzz words same as Mandel and Diaz. Making faces like he’s annoyed. His anger was bubbling he was trying to control it. He knew who was in the audience and he played to the moms4liberty crowd.

Research him outside of that forum he’s a whack job and he supports moms4liberty. Which is a no go. Ex police no educational background. He will never be able to compromise and work with others.

The forum you viewed was in person about 50 like minded parents. It’s not the best view of a diverse group of MOCO families. Is it a possible tool to use for voting yes it gave some people a very clear picture who not to vote for.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the full Moderately MoCo Forum:

I think Shebra and Lynne really did a horrible job defending their track record and making the case for why they should be re-elected. They really need to retool their talking points because what they're doing and saying now is NOT working.

I liked Rita Montoya the best. That's probably the only Apple Ballot candidate I'll vote for.

I'm finding this hard. As usual I know a bit about some folks but not enough about everyone, so I still have research to do.

I do know Rita Montoya a bit. If I didn't know her I would vote for her. However, having direct experience with her for the past few years through the school system she's off my list. Her actions and decision-making at the direct student/teacher level don't match her campaign rhetoric for me, so my vote will go elsewhere.

Please elaborate. That's the feeling I get about her too but I don't have firsthand experience with her to suss out if that's the case.

She seems like she's playing a part. And I like the part she's playing but I don't know if that's genuinely how she feels and thinks.

I just haven't found her leadership to be as unbiased, fact based, or inclusive as I expected. She is very smart and committed, I just haven't seen an ability to weigh all sides and effectively reach resolution when dealing with a mix of administration/faculty/students and parents. I've seen damage done - unintentionally, I'm sure, she seems earnest and well meaning - but damage nonetheless. But maybe she'd be better in this kind of leadership role than in the more direct engagement. I hate when I have to vote without sufficient information, so this is a rare instance of me having some direct knowledge, but even that knowledge is limited and therefore flawed. And I really care about the Board of Education so I'm trying to get it right on what little I can discern. So challenging...

Yikes.....those are PRECISELY the things I was looking to her for as a candidate...

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Poolesville is having a debate tonight:

MOCO School Board candidates to you TONIGHT (Weds April 24) starting at 6:30 PM at the Poolesville Methodist Church!

The Fair Access Committee and the Poolesville High School PTA will be co-sponsoring a debate among the candidates for the Board of Education for the upcoming primary election. We know that these positions are very important as can be seen in the recent issues that have surrounded our school system as well as the construction of our high school (which would not have happened without approval from the Board).
Fourteen candidates are running in the primary for the Board and unlike the case with County Council members, all voters in the County can vote for every open Board seat. Please come out to the Poolesville Memorial Umc at 17821 Elgin Road in Poolesville to hear the candidates debate. We have all three incumbent candidates for the Board coming as well as almost all of the non-incumbent challengers. Should be an interesting night!

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the full Moderately MoCo Forum:

I think Shebra and Lynne really did a horrible job defending their track record and making the case for why they should be re-elected. They really need to retool their talking points because what they're doing and saying now is NOT working.

I liked Rita Montoya the best. That's probably the only Apple Ballot candidate I'll vote for.

I'm finding this hard. As usual I know a bit about some folks but not enough about everyone, so I still have research to do.

I do know Rita Montoya a bit. If I didn't know her I would vote for her. However, having direct experience with her for the past few years through the school system she's off my list. Her actions and decision-making at the direct student/teacher level don't match her campaign rhetoric for me, so my vote will go elsewhere.

Please elaborate. That's the feeling I get about her too but I don't have firsthand experience with her to suss out if that's the case.

She seems like she's playing a part. And I like the part she's playing but I don't know if that's genuinely how she feels and thinks.

I just haven't found her leadership to be as unbiased, fact based, or inclusive as I expected. She is very smart and committed, I just haven't seen an ability to weigh all sides and effectively reach resolution when dealing with a mix of administration/faculty/students and parents. I've seen damage done - unintentionally, I'm sure, she seems earnest and well meaning - but damage nonetheless. But maybe she'd be better in this kind of leadership role than in the more direct engagement. I hate when I have to vote without sufficient information, so this is a rare instance of me having some direct knowledge, but even that knowledge is limited and therefore flawed. And I really care about the Board of Education so I'm trying to get it right on what little I can discern. So challenging...

Yikes.....those are PRECISELY the things I was looking to her for as a candidate...

Well, it's just unsubstantiated gossip so can't give it any weight.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

Perhaps the Montgomery County delegation wasn't solidly in favor of it and abandoned it, or it was pushed down the priority list during the pandemic?

Or realized that that 60k still isn't going to attract a lot of folks to what should be a full time plus job for a professional. Double that, and you *might* start to get more qualified folks in the pool. Look at what Council and higher end county staffers make.

So what if board members have other full time jobs? Can they do both effectively?

They should be taking this as a full-time obligation (and their primary, if not only, job) if we expect effective oversight of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise with about 200,000 direct stakeholders among students and staff. How many highly-paid County Council personnel are there, including council members, themselves, who oversee a budget of similar size when the MCPS piece is removed? Do these council members keep a primary alternate job?

Hidiyat is a full time airline pilot. I highly doubt he's willing to give that up (or cut back) so that he can play school board.

Not that I was going to vote for Hidiyat anyway since his only platform goal appears to be to reinstate SROs, but his being a full-time pilot is a non-starter for me. He won't have time for the board.

Assuming he has some seniority at his airline, then he can pick his schedule. BOE meetinsg are known well in advance, so it will be easy to schedule around them.

Pretty sure he's new at it (at least in a full time capacity), it's his second career.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

Perhaps the Montgomery County delegation wasn't solidly in favor of it and abandoned it, or it was pushed down the priority list during the pandemic?

Or realized that that 60k still isn't going to attract a lot of folks to what should be a full time plus job for a professional. Double that, and you *might* start to get more qualified folks in the pool. Look at what Council and higher end county staffers make.

So what if board members have other full time jobs? Can they do both effectively?

They should be taking this as a full-time obligation (and their primary, if not only, job) if we expect effective oversight of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise with about 200,000 direct stakeholders among students and staff. How many highly-paid County Council personnel are there, including council members, themselves, who oversee a budget of similar size when the MCPS piece is removed? Do these council members keep a primary alternate job?

Hidiyat is a full time airline pilot. I highly doubt he's willing to give that up (or cut back) so that he can play school board.

Not that I was going to vote for Hidiyat anyway since his only platform goal appears to be to reinstate SROs, but his being a full-time pilot is a non-starter for me. He won't have time for the board.

Assuming he has some seniority at his airline, then he can pick his schedule. BOE meetinsg are known well in advance, so it will be easy to schedule around them.

Pretty sure he's new at it (at least in a full time capacity), it's his second career.

No he’s moms4liberty

Who votes that in?

You want turnover fine but not any candidate that supports that utter insanity.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the full Moderately MoCo Forum:

I think Shebra and Lynne really did a horrible job defending their track record and making the case for why they should be re-elected. They really need to retool their talking points because what they're doing and saying now is NOT working.

I liked Rita Montoya the best. That's probably the only Apple Ballot candidate I'll vote for.

I'm finding this hard. As usual I know a bit about some folks but not enough about everyone, so I still have research to do.

I do know Rita Montoya a bit. If I didn't know her I would vote for her. However, having direct experience with her for the past few years through the school system she's off my list. Her actions and decision-making at the direct student/teacher level don't match her campaign rhetoric for me, so my vote will go elsewhere.

Please elaborate. That's the feeling I get about her too but I don't have firsthand experience with her to suss out if that's the case.

She seems like she's playing a part. And I like the part she's playing but I don't know if that's genuinely how she feels and thinks.

I just haven't found her leadership to be as unbiased, fact based, or inclusive as I expected. She is very smart and committed, I just haven't seen an ability to weigh all sides and effectively reach resolution when dealing with a mix of administration/faculty/students and parents. I've seen damage done - unintentionally, I'm sure, she seems earnest and well meaning - but damage nonetheless. But maybe she'd be better in this kind of leadership role than in the more direct engagement. I hate when I have to vote without sufficient information, so this is a rare instance of me having some direct knowledge, but even that knowledge is limited and therefore flawed. And I really care about the Board of Education so I'm trying to get it right on what little I can discern. So challenging...

DP, though a PP in this thread. If you have more concrete examples of the kinds of sides she is taking, that would be helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

Perhaps the Montgomery County delegation wasn't solidly in favor of it and abandoned it, or it was pushed down the priority list during the pandemic?

Or realized that that 60k still isn't going to attract a lot of folks to what should be a full time plus job for a professional. Double that, and you *might* start to get more qualified folks in the pool. Look at what Council and higher end county staffers make.

So what if board members have other full time jobs? Can they do both effectively?

They should be taking this as a full-time obligation (and their primary, if not only, job) if we expect effective oversight of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise with about 200,000 direct stakeholders among students and staff. How many highly-paid County Council personnel are there, including council members, themselves, who oversee a budget of similar size when the MCPS piece is removed? Do these council members keep a primary alternate job?

Hidiyat is a full time airline pilot. I highly doubt he's willing to give that up (or cut back) so that he can play school board.

Not that I was going to vote for Hidiyat anyway since his only platform goal appears to be to reinstate SROs, but his being a full-time pilot is a non-starter for me. He won't have time for the board.

Assuming he has some seniority at his airline, then he can pick his schedule. BOE meetinsg are known well in advance, so it will be easy to schedule around them.

Pretty sure he's new at it (at least in a full time capacity), it's his second career.

Where do you see that he works for an airline?

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

Perhaps the Montgomery County delegation wasn't solidly in favor of it and abandoned it, or it was pushed down the priority list during the pandemic?

Or realized that that 60k still isn't going to attract a lot of folks to what should be a full time plus job for a professional. Double that, and you *might* start to get more qualified folks in the pool. Look at what Council and higher end county staffers make.

So what if board members have other full time jobs? Can they do both effectively?

They should be taking this as a full-time obligation (and their primary, if not only, job) if we expect effective oversight of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise with about 200,000 direct stakeholders among students and staff. How many highly-paid County Council personnel are there, including council members, themselves, who oversee a budget of similar size when the MCPS piece is removed? Do these council members keep a primary alternate job?

Hidiyat is a full time airline pilot. I highly doubt he's willing to give that up (or cut back) so that he can play school board.

Not that I was going to vote for Hidiyat anyway since his only platform goal appears to be to reinstate SROs, but his being a full-time pilot is a non-starter for me. He won't have time for the board.

Assuming he has some seniority at his airline, then he can pick his schedule. BOE meetinsg are known well in advance, so it will be easy to schedule around them.

Pretty sure he's new at it (at least in a full time capacity), it's his second career.

Where do you see that he works for an airline?

It's in all of his bios, here's one.

https://moco360.media/voters-guide/board-of-education/sharif-hidayat/

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

Perhaps the Montgomery County delegation wasn't solidly in favor of it and abandoned it, or it was pushed down the priority list during the pandemic?

Or realized that that 60k still isn't going to attract a lot of folks to what should be a full time plus job for a professional. Double that, and you *might* start to get more qualified folks in the pool. Look at what Council and higher end county staffers make.

So what if board members have other full time jobs? Can they do both effectively?

They should be taking this as a full-time obligation (and their primary, if not only, job) if we expect effective oversight of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise with about 200,000 direct stakeholders among students and staff. How many highly-paid County Council personnel are there, including council members, themselves, who oversee a budget of similar size when the MCPS piece is removed? Do these council members keep a primary alternate job?

Hidiyat is a full time airline pilot. I highly doubt he's willing to give that up (or cut back) so that he can play school board.

Not that I was going to vote for Hidiyat anyway since his only platform goal appears to be to reinstate SROs, but his being a full-time pilot is a non-starter for me. He won't have time for the board.

Assuming he has some seniority at his airline, then he can pick his schedule. BOE meetinsg are known well in advance, so it will be easy to schedule around them.

Pretty sure he's new at it (at least in a full time capacity), it's his second career.

Where do you see that he works for an airline?

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/september/10/from-grade-schooler-to-pilot

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Here's his interview in 2017 about being a Community Engagement Officer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ7szBpR0Lg

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No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Typical that the Parents Coalition negged the suggestion. "What do we want? Oversight! How will we get it? Not with our tax dollars!"

Seems like all the far-right groups like the Parents Coalitions, Mom's for Liberty and "Moderately" Moco are out in force here.

Thank you

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Explain how more money will increase the Board of Education's oversight. Give actual examples.

Right now, the BOE never sees a contract, doesn't ask questions about the many no bid contracts and never holds staff accountable for waste, fraud or abuse. The BOE has already voted most of their oversight power away to the Superintendent.

But you think giving the BOE more money will do what? The BOE has no power anymore to do anything. But pay them more money to do exactly what they are doing now.

Why would we pay them more? To get more qualified people running and raise expectations for their time commitment, as explained a few posts above. Not to pay the current BOE members, unless they then win a re-election among the more qualified field. A more competent BOE with a full time commitment would not have to relegate oversight responsibility.

I'd hope for folks who alternately could fill a mid-step GS-14 federal position with their combination of skill/qualifications and experience. Pay for that in this area is north of $150k. Maybe we could get such folks interested for a bit less than that, but the suggested $60k is laughable, as is anything less than a full time expectation (this is not like having a part time commitment on the board of a corporation where the executive overseen is tied to company performance by their own compensation package, needing more suggestion/contacts/etc. than public-performance oversight). Forget about the current $25k pittance.