What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

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What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

[Anonymous]

Why are you worried already? The application just went in!

That said, only NEW material will be considered during the appeal. Most folks submit new test scores (typically the WISC) with an appeal.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you worried already? The application just went in!

That said, only NEW material will be considered during the appeal. Most folks submit new test scores (typically the WISC) with an appeal.

First, I agree--your kid has not been rejected so why worry about the appeal now??

Also want to clarify the above. You must submit NEW material to support the appeal, but the new material and the original screening file will all be considered during an appeal. As PP said, most people use (new) test scores to support an appeal but it could be new work samples or the like.

[Anonymous]

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How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

You can't, and it's irrelevant anyway. Kids with lower scores who are admitted may have had better work samples or letters of recommendation. The process is holistic.

It would be interesting, though, for someone to FOIA the results and find out the median and 25th-75th percentile splits on the NNAT and each CogAT subtest for the kids admitted to the program.

[Anonymous]

Agree with needing something new, such as a WISC score. In addition, you can write a letter in which you describe the reasons why the regular classroom is not suitable for your child. Give good specific examples of your child's characteristics and behaviors that make the regular classroom a place where his/her educational needs cannot be met.

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How humble should you be when you describe how the regular classroom is not the right place for your child? Would that not be considered as bragging? I understand that when you apply for this program you are already bragging about your child and thinking your child is all that, but in the initial phase you are bragging about your child, whereas in the appeal's process you'd be saying how your child does not belong with the 'regular' folks.

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Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria. Rather than looking to see why your child should be in, we are busy trying to find out who got in and at what score!

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Anonymous wrote:How humble should you be when you describe how the regular classroom is not the right place for your child? Would that not be considered as bragging? I understand that when you apply for this program you are already bragging about your child and thinking your child is all that, but in the initial phase you are bragging about your child, whereas in the appeal's process you'd be saying how your child does not belong with the 'regular' folks.

I'm not sure what you mean by "humble." Many of the characteristics of bright kids who need to be in the AAP program are not necessarily qualities that a parent would want to brag about. Just think about your child and how s/he behaves in the classroom and how those behaviors can interfere with learning.

For example, not every bright kid gets great grades. Many times those are the kids who need the AAP classroom. Think about what might be going on that can interfere with learning and describe in an unemotional, factual way.

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Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria.

Why don't you then enlighten us with your superior understanding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria.

Why don't you then enlighten us with your superior understanding?

I would start with not worrying about other kid scores and focus on first part of the question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria.

Why don't you then enlighten us with your superior understanding?

I would start with not worrying about other kid scores and focus on first part of the question.

Must be that you don't have any understanding yourself, because you are refusing to explain what you claim is so obvious to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with needing something new, such as a WISC score. In addition, you can write a letter in which you describe the reasons why the regular classroom is not suitable for your child. Give good specific examples of your child's characteristics and behaviors that make the regular classroom a place where his/her educational needs cannot be met.

NP here.
We had to do an appeal for DC a few years ago.
We did a letter which had the above. That was the best piece of advice I got from DCUM back then.
I agree with a PP that it's not useful to know what other scores that got in or didn't get in. Focus on your child only.

Our DC's CogAT wasn't strong and if you are concerned about an appeal, I'll guess that you are in the same situation.
It is good that you are already thinking of an appeal just in case. There just isn't much time from the notification to the appeal deadline.
We already had an appointment with a private psychologist set up because we knew that the appointments were going to get full right away.

If you do get further testing, you can get your information from there.
We used the format of presenting a fact found in the test results and using that information against what was available.

DC took the Woodcock Johnson Achievement Test which showed that he was functioning 2 grade levels ahead in Math and 3 grade levels above in Reading.
Since our base school did not have Advanced Math, his needs cannot be met in a Gen Ed classroom.

Hope this helps!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria.

Why don't you then enlighten us with your superior understanding?

I would start with not worrying about other kid scores and focus on first part of the question.

DP. OP, one of the things they consider on appeal is whether kids with similar scores got in, and whether there was a justification for excluding your DCA but not the other child. They will tend to find your child eligible on appeal if there is no strong justification. However, while the committee does consider this information, there is no way for you to get this information. If you do the WISC and don't think the scores are helpful, appeal anyway with new work samples. The WISC or other test score is not required.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What to Include in an Appeal the FCPS Level IV?

How to find out if children with scores the same as those of your child got admitted into the program?

This is an example of a DCUM parent who has limited understanding of AAP process and selection criteria.

Why don't you then enlighten us with your superior understanding?

I would start with not worrying about other kid scores and focus on first part of the question.

DP. OP, one of the things they consider on appeal is whether kids with similar scores got in, and whether there was a justification for excluding your DCA but not the other child. They will tend to find your child eligible on appeal if there is no strong justification. However, while the committee does consider this information, there is no way for you to get this information. If you do the WISC and don't think the scores are helpful, appeal anyway with new work samples. The WISC or other test score is not required.

What is the source of this information? How file one child can be compared to another one, there are so many factors taken into considerations that decides admission to AAP? Do you mean to say, they will pull all files similar to this child file and compare?