student admissions and TJ lawsuit

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Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

[Anonymous]

I never saw the Curie ad, but I was aware that many wealthy families signed their kids up for $$$$ prep. It had nothing to do with race.

It was all about using privilege to gain an unfair advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

It’s been beaten to death for years, even over the last week. Google it.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole "test-buying Asians" trope is a very dangerous one, and it conflates a number of different things that have happened.

What I'm assuming people are referring to is the situation at Curie, whose flagship TJ prep program was a $5,000 investment for 16 months of targeted coaching to the TJ Admissions process that included, according to named students from the Classes of 2022 and 2023, a few specific questions that had been re-used from form to form on the Quant-Q exam. This was a problem because the Quant-Q exam was purported to be "secured", with everyone who saw the exam being required to sign a statement agreeing not to discuss its contents.

The reason people are tagging the "Asian" on to this story is because Curie had a habit of publishing the first and last names of all of its students who successfully gained admission to TJ, AOS, or AET - and it was notable that literally 100% of the names on these lists would be of Asian, and specifically South Asian, descent. This raises questions, of course, as to the nature of Curie and its true mission

These people did not buy the test, they paid for a product that granted their children access to information about the test that they shouldn't have had, and in so doing skewed the admissions results for a couple of years. Because the semifinalist criteria were based on percentile achievement rather than raw score, it's easy to see how many students were likely booted out of the semifinalist pool because of this inappropriate (though not illegal) access.

What Curie did went beyond "prep" and entered into really problematic territory, though there is no reasonable way for them to be held accountable. And it's bothersome to me that the parents who benefited from this gap in the process seem to be so rejective to understanding that they paid for a boost that was unavailable to other students. You already have the prize - why are you so hell-bent on denying that you got a leg up?

But in the end, there's a very strong chance that this story at least in part motivated the changes to the admissions process, which has in effect had a significant negative impact on the ability of (apparently) South Asian parents to use their resources to create imbalances in the TJ admissions process.

There are almost certainly other racially and socioeconomically homogenous groups that were impacted by the changes (Kate Dalby in McLean serves mostly a wealthy white clientele, for example), but none of those other prep centers made the choice to publish the names of their successful students and open a window to criticism that they exist only to serve narrow populations.

I think you're the only one saying test buying Asians.

Nope, I'm simply acknowledging where the trope comes from, while indicating that it is dangerous to paint with a broad brush. The people who took advantage of the Curie situation certainly do not represent all Asians, or even South Asians. They only represented about three quarters of the Class of 2024's South Asian population, meaning that there were a significant number of South Asian students who did gain admission to TJ without the imbalances that Curie provided. It is unfair to assume that all of them fall into that group.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

It’s been beaten to death for years, even over the last week. Google it.

Yep not one link. Probably should be deleted.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

So a Facebook post? lol

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

It's been discussed here numerous times. There's no doubt that this went on.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

It’s been beaten to death for years, even over the last week. Google it.

Yep not one link. Probably should be deleted.

It was just asked a few days ago. Try to keep up if you want to intelligently engage in the conversation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

So a Facebook post? lol

....yes, does that bother you somehow? You have TJ students with nothing to gain and a lot to lose talking to each other openly about the fact that they experienced this, and they're on the lists in question. You don't make something like that up and then put your name on it when it makes you look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

What is Curie?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

What is Curie?

She was radioactive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

What is Curie?

She was radioactive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie

according to the lunatic that's been spinning this fictional story for years, it is set of lists? :D

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

They are publicly available on the TJ Vents Facebook page back in August of 2020. I am not going to take the time to pore back through that archive, but if you're looking for the proof (an initial anonymous claim supported by named TJ students from the Curie lists in the comments section), that's where you'll find it.

Can anyone post on TJ Vents? It appears the shameless equity minions have posted an accusatory message mixed with admission issues to intimidate Asian students?

https://www.facebook.com/tjvents/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide any proof or link of the Curie Quant-Q question claims from the above?

It’s been beaten to death for years, even over the last week. Google it.

Yep not one link. Probably should be deleted.

It was just asked a few days ago. Try to keep up if you want to intelligently engage in the conversation.

There's always some poster that likes to deny what everyone else knew was going on for years. There's plenty of evidence available and this isn't the first or fifth time people have provided it. They need to accept that changes were needed to preserve any integrity.