People don’t understand how selective college admissions works

[Anonymous]

No OP, the whole point of this forum is not to get into a selective forum.

Perhaps you are clueless as to what many other parents value.

[Anonymous]

So you’re saying an A / B student with a lot of interesting extras can still have a shot at a top school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying an A / B student with a lot of interesting extras can still have a shot at a top school?

Did kid make the minimum grade/score cutoff? That’s the first hurdle.

If not, little to no chance unless hooked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying an A / B student with a lot of interesting extras can still have a shot at a top school?

What are you referring to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y'all know anything over 4 months old is probably out of date.

Info below from one of the many enrollment (revenue) management software providers citing a study on AI in admissions published in December.

TLDR: There is no magic formula for "selective" schools. But there are AI algorithms at all levels of the process. Upside, it might (MIGHT) make things more equitable. Not good news for admissions consultants.

----

The Growing Role of AI in University Admissions
In recent years, the use of AI in university admissions has seen a significant increase. According to a survey conducted by Intelligent, an online education magazine, 50% of higher education admissions offices are currently using AI in their review process. An additional 30% have plans to incorporate AI by 2024. This rise in AI shows a change in the thinking of admissions professionals who see the value of AI tools.

Initially met with scepticism, AI tools are now being embraced by admissions counsellors. These tools help in various parts of the admissions process, like checking transcripts and recommendation letters. They also help review personal essays, and can even conduct preliminary interviews with applicants. By automating these tasks, admissions professionals can work more efficiently and focus their attention on the important parts of the evaluation process.

The Benefits of AI in Admissions
Using AI in university admissions offers several advantages. One key advantage is processing a large number of applications quickly. Admissions officers often face time constraints when reviewing applications. The average read time of an application is only 6 minutes. AI tools can analyze applications at a faster rate, saving time and allowing admissions professionals to provide more thorough evaluations.

AI also helps identify specific traits and qualities in prospective students. By using keyword searches and analysis, AI can identify personal qualities that make for a more successful student. This includes qualities such as leadership, teamwork, perseverance, and intrinsic motivation. These qualities are crucial for success in higher education. Identifying them helps admissions officers make informed decisions when selecting candidates.

Additionally, AI tools can reduce bias in the admissions process. Human readers might unintentionally introduce biases based on their opinions. However, AI algorithms can average the opinions of several readers, providing a more fair assessment. This ensures a fairer evaluation of applicants and minimizes the influence of individual biases.

This appears to be the source of what PP quoted (a DEI organization)

https://www.insightintodiversity.com/the-growing-role-of-artificial-intelligence-in-college-admissions/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y'all know anything over 4 months old is probably out of date.

Info below from one of the many enrollment (revenue) management software providers citing a study on AI in admissions published in December.

TLDR: There is no magic formula for "selective" schools. But there are AI algorithms at all levels of the process. Upside, it might (MIGHT) make things more equitable. Not good news for admissions consultants.

----

The Growing Role of AI in University Admissions
In recent years, the use of AI in university admissions has seen a significant increase. According to a survey conducted by Intelligent, an online education magazine, 50% of higher education admissions offices are currently using AI in their review process. An additional 30% have plans to incorporate AI by 2024. This rise in AI shows a change in the thinking of admissions professionals who see the value of AI tools.

Initially met with scepticism, AI tools are now being embraced by admissions counsellors. These tools help in various parts of the admissions process, like checking transcripts and recommendation letters. They also help review personal essays, and can even conduct preliminary interviews with applicants. By automating these tasks, admissions professionals can work more efficiently and focus their attention on the important parts of the evaluation process.

The Benefits of AI in Admissions
Using AI in university admissions offers several advantages. One key advantage is processing a large number of applications quickly. Admissions officers often face time constraints when reviewing applications. The average read time of an application is only 6 minutes. AI tools can analyze applications at a faster rate, saving time and allowing admissions professionals to provide more thorough evaluations.

AI also helps identify specific traits and qualities in prospective students. By using keyword searches and analysis, AI can identify personal qualities that make for a more successful student. This includes qualities such as leadership, teamwork, perseverance, and intrinsic motivation. These qualities are crucial for success in higher education. Identifying them helps admissions officers make informed decisions when selecting candidates.

Additionally, AI tools can reduce bias in the admissions process. Human readers might unintentionally introduce biases based on their opinions. However, AI algorithms can average the opinions of several readers, providing a more fair assessment. This ensures a fairer evaluation of applicants and minimizes the influence of individual biases.

Most of that sounds more like the garbage screeners that HR departments have used for years with the words AI tacked on to make it sound innovative. I can't wait for kids to have to write essays that are a collection of key words for automated screeners to pick up on

[Anonymous]

Someone posted this in another thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/w4h2NbczQk

[Anonymous]

And this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/pTSnk7pffw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/pTSnk7pffw

And this redditors subsequent post:
(I’m getting a sick feeling in my stomach reading these)…..ugh

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/I5xO5ybhvo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In reading the “two worlds” post, it’s clear people don’t understand (1) what selective colleges are looking for; (2) the scoring paradigms that selective college AOs use and (3) how certain students offer more to selective colleges than others., all of which leads to who is admitted.

I’m truly astonished that ppl that are in here are this out to lunch about the process….isn’t that the whole point of this forum?

Please. do. tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/pTSnk7pffw

And this redditors subsequent post:
(I’m getting a sick feeling in my stomach reading these)…..ugh

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/I5xO5ybhvo

Fascinating

[Anonymous]

Found this on reddit. Think its helpful.

AMA: Penn Admissions
My name is Mitch Larson, I am the Digital Media Coordinator for the University of Pennsylvania's Office of Undergraduate Admissions. I am joined tonight by Associate Dean, Justin Mazur, Associate Director of Admissions, Haley Burrowes, and Associate Director of Admissions, Emily Fry.

With the Common Application opening on Sunday, we thought now might be a great time to host Penn Admissions' first-ever AMA and are so excited to connect with you all tonight. We are going to be online for about an hour and are happy to answer whatever questions you might have. We will also sign our answers with our initials.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/osw7tw/ama_penn_admissions/

[Anonymous]

🙄

[Anonymous]

That is why they have College Advisors and Coordinators. We have clarity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying an A / B student with a lot of interesting extras can still have a shot at a top school?

No, no one is saying that. For example UVA (no 24 of all colleges and universities) has posted that last year's incoming students had a 4.51 at the 75th percentile (which most unhooked students need to aim for). see SCHEV