Turning down Ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

DP - I've always felt this was the most pedantic type of comment made in the college forum. The "we" insult. Useless, without value, adding nothing to the discussion, and solely intended to demean the PP and make the poster feel superior. Pathetic.

Many families are close and make family decisions, especially with $300K+ on the line. Not in conflict with their DC, but together and with their grateful support.

Just because you wouldn't use that phrase for your family does not mean other's use of it is indicative of some kind of flaw. So back off.

And before you respond remember your post was criticism of the verbage in a prior post, and this one directed at you is exactly the same thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No - I think the media underreports the fact that the tip top schools have the most money to give. Our schools has plenty of middle class families and the ivies are generally a cheaper option than our state school. And def cheaper than the SLACS they got into.

I know one kid turning down Dartmouth for full ride at Duke, but that feels like splitting hairs. Not really about “turning down Ivy” but more “taking better deal at even higher ranked school”

And for those of us doughnut hole families with no financial aid, sometimes kids turn down an expensive Ivy for a full ride at State U...

I guess. We don’t have a lot of full rides at our state u and I’ve found donut hole families (making 250k) just say, what the hell, and pay the 350 for take over the 200k for state u. The delta isn’t enough to stop them.

More typically $350k vs. $120k.

you live in a state that's cheaper than mine! but these are people who also buy pricey houses and nice cars. really, the 200k over 4 years is not the end all when you're an empty nester making 250k and salary is still rising

You make a lot of assumptions there.

They work in an admissions office at one of these places I bet. Those are the only people in America who think that parents going into PPL debt in retirement is a good idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

+1

For every Rice cross-admit who turn down Columbia, there are 10 who turn down Rice for Columbia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

+1

For every Rice cross-admit who turn down Columbia, there are 10 who turn down Rice for Columbia.

But the Rice kids won’t die of dehydration in a building with running water. The Ivy mirage has been exposed by these pathetic Columbia brats. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

+1

For every Rice cross-admit who turn down Columbia, there are 10 who turn down Rice for Columbia.

But the Rice kids won’t die of dehydration in a building with running water. The Ivy mirage has been exposed by these pathetic Columbia brats. Get over it.

Yeah, damn those Columbia brats willing to risk everything for something they believe in! That is awful!

They are just as bad as those "brats" back at Kent State. And those spoiled rotten Veruca Salt's at the Boston Tea Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

"We" who are paying for said school get to say "we" as much as "we" want.

[Anonymous]

I know a kid who turned down Yale for Rice, but they are a serious musician and wanted the music school there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

DP - I've always felt this was the most pedantic type of comment made in the college forum. The "we" insult. Useless, without value, adding nothing to the discussion, and solely intended to demean the PP and make the poster feel superior. Pathetic.

Many families are close and make family decisions, especially with $300K+ on the line. Not in conflict with their DC, but together and with their grateful support.

Just because you wouldn't use that phrase for your family does not mean other's use of it is indicative of some kind of flaw. So back off.

And before you respond remember your post was criticism of the verbage in a prior post, and this one directed at you is exactly the same thing.

DP. Do we mean "verbiage" here?

[Anonymous]

I feel like I know who you guys would have been if this was the 1960s and your son had long hair and was protesting the war.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

DP - I've always felt this was the most pedantic type of comment made in the college forum. The "we" insult. Useless, without value, adding nothing to the discussion, and solely intended to demean the PP and make the poster feel superior. Pathetic.

Many families are close and make family decisions, especially with $300K+ on the line. Not in conflict with their DC, but together and with their grateful support.

Just because you wouldn't use that phrase for your family does not mean other's use of it is indicative of some kind of flaw. So back off.

And before you respond remember your post was criticism of the verbage in a prior post, and this one directed at you is exactly the same thing.

DP. Do we mean "verbiage" here?

Yes. Typing in fury. Thanks for the spell-check. Happy to discuss what I think is the second-most useless type of post if you like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Brown and cornell turned down by 3 kids we know. They are going to:

Carnegie mellon (x2) for computer science
Yale

^ C-M makes sense. Maybe they don't game the USNWR rankings, but people in the know *know* they are studs on CS, quantum computing, etc.

It does (although they are always top 3 when you look at USNWR rankings by different majors), but my kid knows several unhappy people at CMU. A horrible grind with tons of work and joyless. This seems to be a common theme with CS programs that are more theoretical and more math-based.

You also have many kids rejected at MIT, where CMU is their 2nd choice...so there is that element.

Not everyone should be in a theoretical math based CS program. Some kids would be a lot happier learning how to hone their skills and to take enough math to be good and to be able to use CS as a tool. And more practical math rather than proof based versions of the same classes. Lots of need for those types of people and lots and lots of opportunities, including very highly paid, for them. Those that are going to continue to revolutionize the field though, do need the theoretical math based curriculum. CMU is right (IMO) to insist on it. It keeps them on the cutting edge, research wise, and is what keeps their profs engaged. MIT, for what its worth, does the same. I just wish more people realized the difference in the type of programs up front. And applied appropriately rather than by "rank". For the record, if your kid's goal is to have a well paying job, that doesn't mean they are any less "smart" for not wanting to focus on the theoretical. In fact, they will likely be the boss of the person that is coming up with the transformative ideas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

+1

For every Rice cross-admit who turn down Columbia, there are 10 who turn down Rice for Columbia.

Rice and Columbia are such dissimilar schools that I doubt there are too many students applying to both. And nobody who got into one of the STEM majors at Rice is giving that up for Columbia. Finance and psychology, maybe. Engineering and pre-med, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

+1

For every Rice cross-admit who turn down Columbia, there are 10 who turn down Rice for Columbia.

Rice and Columbia are such dissimilar schools that I doubt there are too many students applying to both. And nobody who got into one of the STEM majors at Rice is giving that up for Columbia. Finance and psychology, maybe. Engineering and pre-med, no.

Please don't give people wrong information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We turned down Columbia for Rice. Less drama.

First, "we" didn't turn down anything: your Rice-bound kid did; and the fact that so many parents can't separate themselves from their children is precisely what's screwing them up.

Second, Rice is a great school, but the fact that you're all for "less drama" says something about your privilege and self-interest. And if your child chose Rice for the same reason, well, s/he' s no loss for Columbia.

+1

For every Rice cross-admit who turn down Columbia, there are 10 who turn down Rice for Columbia.

But the Rice kids won’t die of dehydration in a building with running water. The Ivy mirage has been exposed by these pathetic Columbia brats. Get over it.

Yeah, damn those Columbia brats willing to risk everything for something they believe in! That is awful!

They are just as bad as those "brats" back at Kent State. And those spoiled rotten Veruca Salt's at the Boston Tea Party.

LOL. Wearing masks to hide their identities? Claiming they would die (yes, “DIE”!) if they didn’t get food & water delivered to them? Yeah, these are some really bold people. Lots of future Navy Seals in this bunch!