Stop transgender kids

[Anonymous]

Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.

Yes, in my limited experience, parents of children who identify as transgender, put a great deal of thought and effort into figuring why their kids are suffering, and how to help them. Generally they work with professionals, and children only transition after other options such as allowing them to wear different clothing, have been explored.

Many many children express interest in the toys and clothing of the opposite sex. They may also express a desire to be the opposite sex. But only a very small number of children express that they ARE the opposite sex, and demonstrate persistent unhappiness about their assigned gender.

[Anonymous]

What in the world?

[Anonymous]

OP, what are you talking about? I cannot imagine any parent *encouraging* their children to change their gender, or telling them they were "born the wrong gender."

While I don't think being transgender is a mental illness, to a certain extent it seems really sad and troubling to me, especially when I have heard people describe their feelings about their bodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.

Yes, in my limited experience, parents of children who identify as transgender, put a great deal of thought and effort into figuring why their kids are suffering, and how to help them. Generally they work with professionals, and children only transition after other options such as allowing them to wear different clothing, have been explored.

Many many children express interest in the toys and clothing of the opposite sex. They may also express a desire to be the opposite sex. But only a very small number of children express that they ARE the opposite sex, and demonstrate persistent unhappiness about their assigned gender.

I dont agree. If you read testimonials by parents of trans kids, many of them have reasonings like, "Every year when Bobby was told to pick out a halloween costume, he went straight for the princess outfits."

So? Let him wear the damn princess outfit! That doesn't mean it's time to start him on a track for major gender reassignment surgery. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Do you actually KNOW any trans kids? My DD is friends with two kids in her grade who want to be the gender opposite the ones they are. Neither are encouraged. Neither has come out as gay/lesbian.

[Anonymous]

Transgender children aren't kids who want to wear clothes and play with toys of the opposite sex. They are kids who repeatedly communicate that their body feels wrong and doesn't match how they feel in their head. That goes way beyond what you are talking about, OP.

Either you don't really know what you're talking about (in which case, why start a thread?) or you have an agenda and you're trying to start something.

Either way, nobody is putting tomboys on testosterone or castrating little boys who wear dresses. You're overreacting to something that isn't happening.

[Anonymous]

It's kind of like how many wanted to classify Shiloh Jolie Pitt as being transgender, simply because she dresses "as a boy" and likes to be called John. Typical gender nonconforming girl, that in a different era would have probably grown up to be a lesbian and that would be it. Nowadays, everyone is rushing to say Shiloh is really a he and we need to address her as such. It's messed up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you actually KNOW any trans kids? My DD is friends with two kids in her grade who want to be the gender opposite the ones they are. Neither are encouraged. Neither has come out as gay/lesbian.

You don't find this a little strange? Not OP, but I wonder about the frequency of this. Two kids in 1 classroom? I'd actually be shocked if it was even 1 kid per school! Why is it so much more prevalent now than 30 years ago?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of like how many wanted to classify Shiloh Jolie Pitt as being transgender, simply because she dresses "as a boy" and likes to be called John. Typical gender nonconforming girl, that in a different era would have probably grown up to be a lesbian and that would be it. Nowadays, everyone is rushing to say Shiloh is really a he and we need to address her as such. It's messed up.

Leave it up to the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of like how many wanted to classify Shiloh Jolie Pitt as being transgender, simply because she dresses "as a boy" and likes to be called John. Typical gender nonconforming girl, that in a different era would have probably grown up to be a lesbian and that would be it. Nowadays, everyone is rushing to say Shiloh is really a he and we need to address her as such. It's messed up.

I bet nobody is labeling Shiloh a "he" to her face until her parents put out the word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you actually KNOW any trans kids? My DD is friends with two kids in her grade who want to be the gender opposite the ones they are. Neither are encouraged. Neither has come out as gay/lesbian.

You don't find this a little strange? Not OP, but I wonder about the frequency of this. Two kids in 1 classroom? I'd actually be shocked if it was even 1 kid per school! Why is it so much more prevalent now than 30 years ago?

I would assume that, given the hostility towards trans children, families look very carefully to find schools that can serve their kids appropriately. When a school does a good job with one trans kid, it wouldn't be surprising that another family would choose the same school, even if it means paying private school tuition or moving into a different district.

I would be surprised if a district had an average of 2 kids (or 1 kid or .5 kids) per classroom or even grade level (except perhaps at high school when you can have thousands of kids in one grade), but I wouldn't be surprised at all that the 2 transgender kids in a certain grade in a district ended up in the same school.

[Anonymous]

Over the past six years there has been a 930% increase in the number of children referred to NHS gender clinics across the UK, including one three-year-old and three four-year-olds since April last year. The BBC report shows that the total number of 94 children referred in 2009-10 has increased to 969 in 2015-16.

The report includes the story of a five-year-old Nottinghamshire boy who has just returned to the classroom ‘as a girl’ with support from the school, which sent out letters to parents and children explaining the change. The reaction of the adults around this case, as reported in the Nottingham Post, provides an insight into the reason why the number of children referred to gender clinics has increased so dramatically over the last six years.

First, Colin Pettigrew, the local council authority’s director for children, families and cultural services, said: “Transgender is a characteristic protected by law and therefore head teachers across England continue to, and are required to, agree a clear plan to support the needs of transgender children and young people.”

‘Transgender’ as a protected category for children means that we have already made up our minds about an identity which over 80% of children will outgrow by adolescence. The most likely outcome for this little boy, if left alone, is that he will grow up to be gay, but there is no protected category of homosexuality for children as this only applies when a child matures and develops a sexual orientation: we can’t predict that a child will be gay or lesbian. We also can’t know if a child will grow up to be transgender, but the likelihood is far far less. Establishing ‘transgender’ as a protected category of childhood presupposes, and reinforces, a fixed opposite-sex heterosexual identity before a gay or lesbian child has had the chance to explore, develop and mature. The only protected characteristic we should insist on for children is ‘childhood.’

[Anonymous]

Most “trans” kids do not identify as trans when they grow up. Well, that was according to the studies a while back. Now parents are being pressured from schools, doctors, and other parents to medically and socially transition their children as early as possible.

These children are not girls trapped in boys bodies. They don’t need to be castrated or put on experimental drugs for not conforming to masculinity or femininity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most “trans” kids do not identify as trans when they grow up. Well, that was according to the studies a while back. Now parents are being pressured from schools, doctors, and other parents to medically and socially transition their children as early as possible.

These children are not girls trapped in boys bodies. They don’t need to be castrated or put on experimental drugs for not conforming to masculinity or femininity.

Your opinion has been noted. Several times now.