Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote: Not sure about Matty Healy personally, but there is no denying how beautiful “About You” is. Truly, a masterpiece

This is one of my favorite sad songs of all time. The live version from Madison Square Garden is even better than the studio version. The saxophone at the end is amazing.
We all have that one person - a lost love, a deceased family member - that this song evokes, without fail, every time.
And now I am crying…

I lost a baby a while ago, and “About You” and “Bigger Than The Whole Sky” are two songs that I always skip unless I am home alone because they destroy me. I am not surprised they were written by two artists with a deep connection to each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did she and Matt break up?

He was her transition guy… everyone needs one.

Matt Healy was no transition. She has been in love with him for years. She probably left Joe for him too. Then the fans, media, everyone dragged him through the mud and the guy couldn’t take the heat and walked out. Can’t blame him, not everyone wants that kind of scrutiny into their past (and his is wild!) and into their every move.

These are of the songs from the past decade that are likely about him, in addition to the ones on the new album:

The One, Cardigan, Question ?, Illicit Affairs, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, End Game, Glitch, Labyrinth, Maroon, Death By a Thousand Cuts, Daylight, Ready For It, Don’t Blame Me, Now That We Don’t Talk, August, This is Me Trying, Cowboy Like Me, Snow on the Beach, August, Gold Rush, Ivy, Closure, Exile, Cornelia Street, False God, So It Goes, maybe Cruel Summer…and who knows how many others.

If she’s in love with MH then poor taste in men.

Some people are like that. Some grow out of it. Some don't.

There is no need to grow out of intense love, deep connection, the chase, the longing and flirting with songs back and forth. These are the moments that make life worth living! Taylor doesn’t need a partner to help with earning and domestic chores for example, that’s been taken care of a long time ago. She wants butterflies and weak knees and messy top kisses and fireworks and pontificating and writing poetry all night. Matty can give her all that and more (my bedsheets are ablaze she wrote

These two need to get over their pride and prejudice and find their way back to each other. I am too invested now in this epic, clandestine love story and would love to see it through.

yes, and I am here for it. ...will Matty reply or stay silent?

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Anonymous wrote:Matty is a freaking drug addict. I don’t understand the appeal.

He’s chaotic and profound at the same time, funny, quick-witted, sardonic, oddly brilliant in flashes before he reverts to a weird little muppet, very likely reeking of cigarettes and cabernet, and for some reason this combo is irresistible. He just scratches something in my brain.

But also: uh, he’s a rock star. It’s a thing.

Rock star to whom?

Just to thousands of people filling his band's arena shows globally

Arenas? lol no

The 1975’s concert at Madison Square Garden (one of the world’s most famous *arenas*) last year was sold out for the two nights they played there. Capacity is 20,000. It was a beautiful concert enjoyed by this old fart who grew up attending rock concerts in the 80s and 90s. “About You” is the sister song to “Every Breath You Take.”

DP. It reminds me of 80s alternative bands, like Psychedelic Furs (Heaven, Ghost in You) or New Order. Just beautiful.

[Anonymous]

You guys are really romantacizing this whole thing. Just guessing, but you sound pretty young. From someone who is probably quite a bit older and able to speak from more life experience, believe me there’s more you want in a life partner than butterflies and weak knees and writing poetry all night. Maybe she has that now.

“You already know, babe.”

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Anonymous wrote:Matty is a freaking drug addict. I don’t understand the appeal.

He’s chaotic and profound at the same time, funny, quick-witted, sardonic, oddly brilliant in flashes before he reverts to a weird little muppet, very likely reeking of cigarettes and cabernet, and for some reason this combo is irresistible. He just scratches something in my brain.

But also: uh, he’s a rock star. It’s a thing.

Rock star to whom?

Just to thousands of people filling his band's arena shows globally

Arenas? lol no

The 1975’s concert at Madison Square Garden (one of the world’s most famous *arenas*) last year was sold out for the two nights they played there. Capacity is 20,000. It was a beautiful concert enjoyed by this old fart who grew up attending rock concerts in the 80s and 90s. “About You” is the sister song to “Every Breath You Take.”

DP. It reminds me of 80s alternative bands, like Psychedelic Furs (Heaven, Ghost in You) or New Order. Just beautiful.

Yes! I am so glad someone else on this board gets it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are really romantacizing this whole thing. Just guessing, but you sound pretty young. From someone who is probably quite a bit older and able to speak from more life experience, believe me there’s more you want in a life partner than butterflies and weak knees and writing poetry all night. Maybe she has that now.

“You already know, babe.”

I am in my 50s and happily married to a stable partner who is wonderful and no poet But then I am also not Taylor Swift, who can live out her entire life like the single best, wildest, funnest day of our youth, and I support that path if that’s what she or others choose. Why do people assume everyone wants the life most of us on this site have (moms, wives, corporate jobs)? Her reality is so different than ours. There can also be happiness and fulfillment in a life of highs and lows with little gray in it.

[Anonymous]

Well yes Taylor doesn't need a partner who has to help with the school run or make dinner. Neither will ever live a basic life. Matty is rumored to be worth $20m or so alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are really romantacizing this whole thing. Just guessing, but you sound pretty young. From someone who is probably quite a bit older and able to speak from more life experience, believe me there’s more you want in a life partner than butterflies and weak knees and writing poetry all night. Maybe she has that now.

“You already know, babe.”

+1

And I'll add that the whole Matt Healy thing shines a light on how unlikely it is that Taylor is going to find her happily ever after. Her approach to relationships is not conducive to a longterm match.

[Anonymous]

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Rock star to whom?

You guys are crazy and in denial. This man is confident, cool and sexy af. And you know what they say about good dancers
I get why Tay is down bad.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BionleIX_ec

[Anonymous]

After listening to the album, I get why she's into Travis. I knew nothing about Matty Healy until recently, but I see that she clearly goes for the tortured soul English types, right. But she just released an album denouncing how her fame has infiltrated all facets of her life, that if you want to see mean, great you created it when you came after me; why can't it once be me; where's my soulmate, smallest man who ever lived couldn't handle me, etc. etc etc. Say what you will about her, her level of fame is next level and she's been in relationships where she's been hurt because she felt like she wasn't worth it in the end; where they let the court of public opinion dictate their actions.

Cue Travis Kelce who parades her around, shows up, says he's not running from it, he's all in. That has to be music to her ears, pun intended. Someone is choosing her in a really big way. It's nice.

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Anonymous wrote:After listening to the album, I get why she's into Travis. I knew nothing about Matty Healy until recently, but I see that she clearly goes for the tortured soul English types, right. But she just released an album denouncing how her fame has infiltrated all facets of her life, that if you want to see mean, great you created it when you came after me; why can't it once be me; where's my soulmate, smallest man who ever lived couldn't handle me, etc. etc etc. Say what you will about her, her level of fame is next level and she's been in relationships where she's been hurt because she felt like she wasn't worth it in the end; where they let the court of public opinion dictate their actions.

Cue Travis Kelce who parades her around, shows up, says he's not running from it, he's all in. That has to be music to her ears, pun intended. Someone is choosing her in a really big way. It's nice.

Exactly! Sometimes there’s no bigger turn-on then a guy who pursues you, no matter what. And she’s obviously attracted to him as well.

Any wonder there’s been recent articles that she fears her fame will drive him away and he’s interviewed by Billy Bush saying he’s not running away from any of it. I think that’s exactly what she’s referring to in The Alchemy when she talks about something that only happens once in a few lifetimes. He’s her “white wine.”


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Anonymous wrote:After listening to the album, I get why she's into Travis. I knew nothing about Matty Healy until recently, but I see that she clearly goes for the tortured soul English types, right. But she just released an album denouncing how her fame has infiltrated all facets of her life, that if you want to see mean, great you created it when you came after me; why can't it once be me; where's my soulmate, smallest man who ever lived couldn't handle me, etc. etc etc. Say what you will about her, her level of fame is next level and she's been in relationships where she's been hurt because she felt like she wasn't worth it in the end; where they let the court of public opinion dictate their actions.

Cue Travis Kelce who parades her around, shows up, says he's not running from it, he's all in. That has to be music to her ears, pun intended. Someone is choosing her in a really big way. It's nice.

Exactly! Sometimes there’s no bigger turn-on then a guy who pursues you, no matter what. And she’s obviously attracted to him as well.

Any wonder there’s been recent articles that she fears her fame will drive him away and he’s interviewed by Billy Bush saying he’s not running away from any of it. I think that’s exactly what she’s referring to in The Alchemy when she talks about something that only happens once in a few lifetimes. He’s her “white wine.”

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Eh. Anyone who isn't a deep creative type is going to bore her after a while. She's in the mind of an adolescent, and she still wants the bad boy who writes songs about her, even if there is another guy who treats her well and says she's pretty and her concerts are fun. Travis is outside the very heart of what makes Taylor, Taylor.

That being said, IMO she *should* put MH and anyone else like him away on a shelf for good and let herself be happy in a stable relationship. Time will tell what her decision is.

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Anonymous wrote:After listening to the album, I get why she's into Travis. I knew nothing about Matty Healy until recently, but I see that she clearly goes for the tortured soul English types, right. But she just released an album denouncing how her fame has infiltrated all facets of her life, that if you want to see mean, great you created it when you came after me; why can't it once be me; where's my soulmate, smallest man who ever lived couldn't handle me, etc. etc etc. Say what you will about her, her level of fame is next level and she's been in relationships where she's been hurt because she felt like she wasn't worth it in the end; where they let the court of public opinion dictate their actions.

Cue Travis Kelce who parades her around, shows up, says he's not running from it, he's all in. That has to be music to her ears, pun intended. Someone is choosing her in a really big way. It's nice.

Exactly! Sometimes there’s no bigger turn-on then a guy who pursues you, no matter what. And she’s obviously attracted to him as well.

Any wonder there’s been recent articles that she fears her fame will drive him away and he’s interviewed by Billy Bush saying he’s not running away from any of it. I think that’s exactly what she’s referring to in The Alchemy when she talks about something that only happens once in a few lifetimes. He’s her “white wine.”

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Eh. Anyone who isn't a deep creative type is going to bore her after a while. She's in the mind of an adolescent, and she still wants the bad boy who writes songs about her, even if there is another guy who treats her well and says she's pretty and her concerts are fun. Travis is outside the very heart of what makes Taylor, Taylor.

That being said, IMO she *should* put MH and anyone else like him away on a shelf for good and let herself be happy in a stable relationship. Time will tell what her decision is.

Just curious, do you think she will still be in the mind of an adolescent in her 40s, 50s, and beyond?

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Anonymous wrote:After listening to the album, I get why she's into Travis. I knew nothing about Matty Healy until recently, but I see that she clearly goes for the tortured soul English types, right. But she just released an album denouncing how her fame has infiltrated all facets of her life, that if you want to see mean, great you created it when you came after me; why can't it once be me; where's my soulmate, smallest man who ever lived couldn't handle me, etc. etc etc. Say what you will about her, her level of fame is next level and she's been in relationships where she's been hurt because she felt like she wasn't worth it in the end; where they let the court of public opinion dictate their actions.

Cue Travis Kelce who parades her around, shows up, says he's not running from it, he's all in. That has to be music to her ears, pun intended. Someone is choosing her in a really big way. It's nice.

Exactly! Sometimes there’s no bigger turn-on then a guy who pursues you, no matter what. And she’s obviously attracted to him as well.

Any wonder there’s been recent articles that she fears her fame will drive him away and he’s interviewed by Billy Bush saying he’s not running away from any of it. I think that’s exactly what she’s referring to in The Alchemy when she talks about something that only happens once in a few lifetimes. He’s her “white wine.”

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Eh. Anyone who isn't a deep creative type is going to bore her after a while. She's in the mind of an adolescent, and she still wants the bad boy who writes songs about her, even if there is another guy who treats her well and says she's pretty and her concerts are fun. Travis is outside the very heart of what makes Taylor, Taylor.

That being said, IMO she *should* put MH and anyone else like him away on a shelf for good and let herself be happy in a stable relationship. Time will tell what her decision is.

Just curious, do you think she will still be in the mind of an adolescent in her 40s, 50s, and beyond?

I don't. I feel like she really is trying to reconcile some personal stuff, and her support system is wide and deep. She seems to be looking for someone who can really relate to her. Travis has got the comfort with being a celebrity on a global stage part, but what thrills her is someone who sees the world and relates to it (and someone else) creatively the way she does. Tall order.

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Anonymous wrote:After listening to the album, I get why she's into Travis. I knew nothing about Matty Healy until recently, but I see that she clearly goes for the tortured soul English types, right. But she just released an album denouncing how her fame has infiltrated all facets of her life, that if you want to see mean, great you created it when you came after me; why can't it once be me; where's my soulmate, smallest man who ever lived couldn't handle me, etc. etc etc. Say what you will about her, her level of fame is next level and she's been in relationships where she's been hurt because she felt like she wasn't worth it in the end; where they let the court of public opinion dictate their actions.

Cue Travis Kelce who parades her around, shows up, says he's not running from it, he's all in. That has to be music to her ears, pun intended. Someone is choosing her in a really big way. It's nice.

Exactly! Sometimes there’s no bigger turn-on then a guy who pursues you, no matter what. And she’s obviously attracted to him as well.

Any wonder there’s been recent articles that she fears her fame will drive him away and he’s interviewed by Billy Bush saying he’s not running away from any of it. I think that’s exactly what she’s referring to in The Alchemy when she talks about something that only happens once in a few lifetimes. He’s her “white wine.”

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Eh. Anyone who isn't a deep creative type is going to bore her after a while. She's in the mind of an adolescent, and she still wants the bad boy who writes songs about her, even if there is another guy who treats her well and says she's pretty and her concerts are fun. Travis is outside the very heart of what makes Taylor, Taylor.

That being said, IMO she *should* put MH and anyone else like him away on a shelf for good and let herself be happy in a stable relationship. Time will tell what her decision is.

Just curious, do you think she will still be in the mind of an adolescent in her 40s, 50s, and beyond?

I don't. I feel like she really is trying to reconcile some personal stuff, and her support system is wide and deep. She seems to be looking for someone who can really relate to her. Travis has got the comfort with being a celebrity on a global stage part, but what thrills her is someone who sees the world and relates to it (and someone else) creatively the way she does. Tall order.

I feel like it’s become a trope or an easy shot to say she’s got the mind of an adolescent. She really doesn’t, and it’s just so gross to keep parading that cliched bs out over and over again. The album she just released pretty much did a postmortem on all these guys, all at once and put them in a shelf, gave us the Manuscript, and my prediction is this is the last we’ll hear of her relationships. The fan base was chastised, everyone was, on this album. She let her inner B fly and it was great.