This is an interesting perspective. One that our family did not experience with either of our kids. Sure there were parents at practices and games. But it was a lovely community of like-minded families. If a family wanted a different level of play or style of play they moved on to another team. Our parents were well-behaved on the sidelines - cheering on their players but not influencing the coach, the ref or the game. Both our kids played at a high level - so it's not based on the competitive level. Perhaps this is by the soccer club or location? But I don't think you can make a generalization. Regardless I'm incredibly grateful for the years of soccer and the parents on the sidelines. |
There’s a difference between wanting to play pro and reality. Sure most younger kids, elementary ages, want to play pro. Every kid wants to play in the NFL and NBA. But by the time they reach high school they themselves know it’s not possible for them because they realize they just don’t have that level of talent. By the time they are in college, 95% of the players know pro is not possible but they still play. |
Most young girls have dreams. Most kids won’t work to reach them Most don’t have the athleticism Most around here have parents that think they can close any gaps with purchasing power of $ It doesn’t work like that, never has Most find a dream that fits their ability and work towards it |
The money matters and the parents are aggressive about it even if the kids have very little talent. Seeing Duke, UVA commits like this all the time now. Really good players on top teams get passed over all the time. |
Pay-to-play isn't the sin within itself It's how much we pay and what we get in return that's the problem |
There's little to no scholarship monies to be had in college soccer. So why do parents that have plenty of $$ and the kids are doing academically well drive themselves crazy with soccer? |
It's more than that. Pay to play creates an expectation that players need to pay $$$ to train and get better. Unfortunaly for girls right now there's no free options for training. When this changes pay to play will be acceptable. |
free? what is stopping parents from working with kids or a couple teammates working together? how many kids are getting up and running 3 miles w surges every morning? ain't nothing free, costs time, sweat and tears and some loneliness |
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Why would p2p be acceptable if free training is available? don't understand |
False premise. Read Michael Lewis on the cancer that is travel sports. It started with soccer but has moved to other sports like softball because pure profit drives this more than player development. Much like American football it should be the high school where soccer players get recruited for soccer not club. College coaches are the driver. If they recruited more from high school - particularly for DIii travel would die. It is ridiculous situation currently where real athletes must compete with Daddy Deep pockets for space on club teams. |
com'on some of the daddy deep pockets kids are real athletes and also have platinum cards college coaches don't need to go to high schools, because if you're playing in high school and good enough for college, you're also playing on a travel team |
This. The point is get involved in something. Two of my kids are at big 10 schools pursuing science degrees. One is a D1 athlete and the other does extracurricular music clubs. Both are learning so much through their involvement and probably invest a similar amount of time on them. As someone pointed out participation in the D1 has its perks: scholarship, meals and academics supports (registers early and has weekly academic advising- if his grades slip it is addressed.) I trust the skills they’ve gathered will be useful I also hope it’ll be recognized as having some value once they enter the workforce. Good luck! |
It's what free vs p2p training represent. Free training = Academy development. Top talent plays everyone else gets shifted through the system. In this type of environment generally everyone plays up. The idea is to identify high level talent in the shortest time. Identified talent gets sold off via transfer fees and this is what pays for all the players development. P2P training = Player funded development. Talent pays for their development. In this configuration deepest pockets will get developed to the highest level. Is this a good or bad thing? Nobody really knows. Wiith girls free training doesn't currently exist in America. |
Why are you calling OP a troll? This is a legitimate question and one that more families should be asking. The amount of time and money that families pour into girls youth soccer with the goal of playing in college is significant. It makes sense to step back to see whether that investment is worth the return. The ROI doesn't have to just be financial - there are non-financial reasons to participate in youth sports, but so many families seem to think that their kid will get a full ride to an amazing school on a soccer scholarship and that is not the reality. |