Help with this math problem... I'm not smarter than a 5th grader

Anonymous
Ok, I hate that I'm asking this... but the kid got it wrong and I see what the right answer is supposed to be, but I don't understand.

3^3 - 6(10-8) + 5

Please tell me what you think the answer is.

I thought it was 9 - (12) + 5 = 2.

Apparently that is not right.

Anonymous
3^3 is 27, not 9.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok, I hate that I'm asking this... but the kid got it wrong and I see what the right answer is supposed to be, but I don't understand.

3^3 - 6(10-8) + 5

Please tell me what you think the answer is.

I thought it was 9 - (12) + 5 = 2.

Apparently that is not right.



Is 3^3 = 3 exponent 3 ? I so, the answer is not 9. It is 27 = 3 * 3 * 3.
Anonymous
PEMDAS.

Parentheses=

27 - 6(2) + 5

27 - 12 + 5

Then I think you just do it in order now ...

15+5=20
Anonymous
Thank you! ... but I need more help b/c the answer in the on-line test says it's "10"

So, even using 27, that would make the answer 22. So what?????
Anonymous
Now I'm really mixing up my numbers in my head -- yes, 20:39, you have it the way I should have had it.... but that's still not "10"...???
Anonymous
They got ten by doing the addition first, then the subtraction, at my last step.

So 27-17 is 10.

I am a middle school science teacher. I thought with PEMDAS, When it comes to MD and AS, you do them in order. So the subtracting 27-12 would come before the adding 12+5. The online answe does not agree with me. I guess I could be wrong. That's just how I remember doing it. Granted, I havent gone over this in a long time!
Anonymous
The answer is 20.

Are you sure it's +5 at the end and not -5. If it was -5, that would make the answer 10.

Anonymous
3^3 - 6(10-8) + 5

27-6(2)+5

27-12+5

15+5

20

What on-line test are you looking at?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They got ten by doing the addition first, then the subtraction, at my last step.

So 27-17 is 10.

I am a middle school science teacher. I thought with PEMDAS, When it comes to MD and AS, you do them in order. So the subtracting 27-12 would come before the adding 12+5. The online answe does not agree with me. I guess I could be wrong. That's just how I remember doing it. Granted, I havent gone over this in a long time!


Yes, you do multiplication/division in order from left to right, and then you do addition/subtraction in order from left to right. It really ought to be

P
E
M/D
A/S
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:3^3 - 6(10-8) + 5

27-6(2)+5

27-12+5

15+5

20

What on-line test are you looking at?


It's an online test that FCPS uses.
Anonymous
So the online test FCPS uses is wrong?
Anonymous
3^3-6(10-8)+5

27-(60-48)+5

27-12+5

27-17=10

Using PEMDAS: Parentheses, Exponent, Mulplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction.

Do it in this order.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:3^3-6(10-8)+5

27-(60-48)+5

27-12+5

27-17=10

Using PEMDAS: Parentheses, Exponent, Mulplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction.

Do it in this order.


Except multiplication and division are "equal" in priority, as are addition and subtraction. The answer is 20, not 10.

I'm really dreading elementary school math now.
Anonymous
the answer IS 20
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