TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Intentionally misleading y-axis. Try again.

Truth hurts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

Those bottom middle schools do not teach math classes beyond Algebra 1. Even in their Algebra 1 math class, prealgebra is being taught but inflated A grades are being given out. How do we know this? The SOL scores show 75% of the class failing at grade level Algebra 1 math.

Which FCPS middle schools aren't teaching Geometry? The SOL data indicates that Key, Poe, and Stone have some kids taking the geometry SOL, and some years have numbers above the reporting threshold of 10. Also, the SOL scores posted on the VDOE page show that all of these lower SES middle schools have an Algebra I SOL pass rate of at least 80%.

Also:
In the 2022-2023 testing year:
Glasgow had 62 7th graders take the Algebra I SOL with a 98.39% pass rate
Sandburg had 41 7th graders take the Algebra I SOL with a 100% pass rate

Where, exactly, are all of these economically disadvantaged kids who lack access to 7th grade Algebra? Where, exactly, are the kids being given As in Algebra 1, but failing the SOLs?

[Anonymous]

Both Whitman and Poe middle have 25% math proficiency. Which school is better to get into TJ for a hispanic student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):
17-18: 1,216
18-19: 1,251
19-20: 1,293
20-21: 1,303
21-22: 1,264 **
22-23: 1,293 **
23-24: 1,275 **

It’s may not be obvious from above, but aside from 2020 & 2019, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than any year in the school’s history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both Whitman and Poe middle have 25% math proficiency. Which school is better to get into TJ for a hispanic student?

Where are you getting your numbers? Also, why would the bottom kids matter if there's a solid cohort at the top.
In the 2022-2023 testing cycle, Whitman had 18 7th graders take the Algebra I SOL, with a 100% pass rate. They also had 131 8th graders take the Algebra I SOL with a 85.5% pass rate. Looks like there are plenty of kids doing fine. It's far from the earlier claims that there are schools not teaching Geometry at all and having Algebra I pass rates that are less than 25%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

They must have the magic ball when doing lottery. At my kid school, majority who gets in (with “lottery” as you assume) is the high caliber students from UMC Fam…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

Nope.

Are you advanced merit? We limit you based on your skin color
Right kind of skin color? You are in, even if unqualified

What right skin color you mean? Yellow, black, brown? Brown as Indian brown or hispanic brown, or middle east brown, or south asian brown? Why are you so obsessed with this ?
Also how do you define they are “unqualified”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

Those bottom middle schools do not teach math classes beyond Algebra 1. Even in their Algebra 1 math class, prealgebra is being taught but inflated A grades are being given out. How do we know this? The SOL scores show 75% of the class failing at grade level Algebra 1 math.

Which FCPS middle schools aren't teaching Geometry? The SOL data indicates that Key, Poe, and Stone have some kids taking the geometry SOL, and some years have numbers above the reporting threshold of 10. Also, the SOL scores posted on the VDOE page show that all of these lower SES middle schools have an Algebra I SOL pass rate of at least 80%.

NP. If you look at 2022-23, Stone had two 8th graders taking the Geometry SOL and only one 7th grader taking the Algebra 1 SOL. For Key, three and two respectively. For Poe four and four respectively. These are very small numbers of students. It seems unlikely that they have dedicated classes for the 7th grade Algebra 1 cohort.

[Anonymous]

"At Poe Middle, 25% of students scored at or above the proficient level for math"

https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/virginia/poe-middle-267231

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

Those bottom middle schools do not teach math classes beyond Algebra 1. Even in their Algebra 1 math class, prealgebra is being taught but inflated A grades are being given out. How do we know this? The SOL scores show 75% of the class failing at grade level Algebra 1 math.

Which FCPS middle schools aren't teaching Geometry? The SOL data indicates that Key, Poe, and Stone have some kids taking the geometry SOL, and some years have numbers above the reporting threshold of 10. Also, the SOL scores posted on the VDOE page show that all of these lower SES middle schools have an Algebra I SOL pass rate of at least 80%.

NP. If you look at 2022-23, Stone had two 8th graders taking the Geometry SOL and only one 7th grader taking the Algebra 1 SOL. For Key, three and two respectively. For Poe four and four respectively. These are very small numbers of students. It seems unlikely that they have dedicated classes for the 7th grade Algebra 1 cohort.

If they don't have enough students for dedicated classes, then how are some kids taking the Geometry SOL? Are they busing to a different school for math? If none of these schools are AAP centers, then perhaps the Algebra in 7th qualifying kids should be bused to the AAP center. Alternatively, if the AAP center stopped siphoning off the top talent, would there be enough kids to offer a full 8th grade geometry class?

All of that being said, Poe still had 111 kids take the algebra I SOL with a pass rate of 82.88%. There is still a cohort of advanced kids learning what they are supposed to be learning in Algebra I.

[Anonymous]

“Advanced”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

Nope.

Are you advanced merit? We limit you based on your skin color
Right kind of skin color? You are in, even if unqualified

What right skin color you mean? Yellow, black, brown? Brown as Indian brown or hispanic brown, or middle east brown, or south asian brown? Why are you so obsessed with this ?
Also how do you define they are “unqualified”?

Good question. Why is FCPS school board obsessed with student's skin color at TJ? Why isnt FCPS as race-neutral as it is for basketball teams with 95% of single race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Who says there's no racial quota management? Magically, the Asian percent alone has gone down, and stays down?

Percent total of Asians will obviously go down, mathematically, because there are many middle schools where there are very few Asians. If more Asians moved to other middle schools instead of primarily concentrating in Rocky Run, Carson, and Cooper, then the Asian percentage will go up again.

Those bottom middle schools do not teach math classes beyond Algebra 1. Even in their Algebra 1 math class, prealgebra is being taught but inflated A grades are being given out. How do we know this? The SOL scores show 75% of the class failing at grade level Algebra 1 math.

Which FCPS middle schools aren't teaching Geometry? The SOL data indicates that Key, Poe, and Stone have some kids taking the geometry SOL, and some years have numbers above the reporting threshold of 10. Also, the SOL scores posted on the VDOE page show that all of these lower SES middle schools have an Algebra I SOL pass rate of at least 80%.

NP. If you look at 2022-23, Stone had two 8th graders taking the Geometry SOL and only one 7th grader taking the Algebra 1 SOL. For Key, three and two respectively. For Poe four and four respectively. These are very small numbers of students. It seems unlikely that they have dedicated classes for the 7th grade Algebra 1 cohort.

If they don't have enough students for dedicated classes, then how are some kids taking the Geometry SOL? Are they busing to a different school for math? If none of these schools are AAP centers, then perhaps the Algebra in 7th qualifying kids should be bused to the AAP center. Alternatively, if the AAP center stopped siphoning off the top talent, would there be enough kids to offer a full 8th grade geometry class?

All of that being said, Poe still had 111 kids take the algebra I SOL with a pass rate of 82.88%. There is still a cohort of advanced kids learning what they are supposed to be learning in Algebra I.

You'd have to ask someone at the school as to how it's done. The two Stone students taking 8th grade Geometry could have studied on their own and asked to take that SOL, they could have taken the course at another school, or perhaps some other option. It is relevant regarding the earlier exchange about whether families would relocate to certain middle schools. The apparent lack of a formal 7th grade Algebra 1 class makes relocation seem less likely for families interested in advanced math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"At Poe Middle, 25% of students scored at or above the proficient level for math"

https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/virginia/poe-middle-267231

JFC, when will US News cease to be the go-to source for supposedly accurate information? This publication is apparently for 2024 but is using data from the 2020-2021 test year, i.e. the remote COVID year. Who knows what other statistics they are mixing up.
Check the VDOE data yourself, Poe indeed had an overall math pass rate of 25% in 2020-21 (with the caveat that it includes 6th grad math SOL tests as well). Last year it recovered back to 42%. Most schools, especially the poorer ones, saw significant dips in 2020-21.

I even admit 42% is still a bad result, but will always harp on the misuse of fallible numbers posted by US News that everyone seems to believe is the ground truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you poor? You’re in.
Everyone else? Lottery

Nope.

Are you advanced merit? We limit you based on your skin color
Right kind of skin color? You are in, even if unqualified

What right skin color you mean? Yellow, black, brown? Brown as Indian brown or hispanic brown, or middle east brown, or south asian brown? Why are you so obsessed with this ?
Also how do you define they are “unqualified”?

Good question. Why is FCPS school board obsessed with student's skin color at TJ? Why isnt FCPS as race-neutral as it is for basketball teams with 95% of single race?

They aren't in fact selection for these programs is race blind.