5th grader - bullying incident based on religion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know this boy and up until this fall and when he started with the Donald Trump stuff, I thought he was a nice kid.

So who exactly is the intolerant one?

Judging by this thread?

Everyone.

Adults need to model civil discourse and disagreement to kids.

We can do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I tell my son that a lot of trump supporters don't really pay attention to him and don't see a lot of his racism and bigotry. They are just thinking of his reputation and reality show. They want change. Not everyone follows politics closely.

I stress that racism, sexism, and bigotry are wrong. Because those are our family values. And a lot of what trump says is racist, sexist, and bigoted. But that doesn't mean kids who like him are. They are kids. They are almost always parroting what their parents say.

The fact that you think all of their parents are racist, sexist, and bigots that support a candidate that you THINK is, IS the main issue here. I don't support Hillary at all. I think she is a cheat, a liar, a killer, and has paid and manipulated her way to this endorsement. I also don't want her ass of a husband back in the white house. He should have been impeached. I don't go around saying all of their supporters are liars, cheats, killers, etc... There is no difference. Only in your perception of the situation.

Just like why does everyone ask Ivanka what they think about her Dad being a sexist yet they never ask Chelsea the same thing about her Dad. Somehow he gets a hall pass I guess. He treated interns and others in the white house like play toys. Manipulated them for his own self pleasure and lied about it. A head strong woman would have left in a heartbeat. Hillary? Yuck, she stayed with him. I don't want my daughters emulating her.

[Anonymous]

OP, if your main concern here is the fact that this kid is a "Trump supporter" or the fact that your kid got made fun of because of a political candidate, perhaps ask Jeff to move this to the Politics forum.

I don't think that boy was being very nice to your daughter at all. But I also know that kids can be really mean to one another. It can be about religion, hair, skin color, body shape, socioeconomic status, brands of clothing or shoes, country of origin, etc.

It's not okay, but it's also not abnormal.

As a person from a minority religion and minority ethnicity, I got made fun of quite a bit. My religion, my skin color, my hair, but also other things sometimes like my jacket. Nothing is really out of bounds for kids that age. It's not all about one specific thing.

You should explain to your daughter that people, especially kids, can be mean but that we just move on. That's not the only time she's going to experience it, next time it could be about her shirt or her hair.

You need to let her know that and not turn it into some persecution complex.

[Anonymous]

NP. THis forum is pretty scary and sad. The kid being the Trump supporter was the pretext. THeoretically its possible to be a Trump supporter and not be prejudiced. This kid was not expressing this innocent viewpoint. The Bye was not an innocent bye. It was bullying plain and simple. If expressing joy at the thought of the other kid being ejected from the country due to religion is not bullying and ridiculously awful.

The kid is a 5th grader, so this is not an evaluation of the bully's deep intentions and soul. As pointed out, its likely he's just parroting surrounding adults. But it needs to be pointed out that what he did was unacceptable.

People act as if these kinds of things are inevitable and unavoidable. It's not. And telling people to eat the shit fed to them is not the right lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. THis forum is pretty scary and sad. The kid being the Trump supporter was the pretext. THeoretically its possible to be a Trump supporter and not be prejudiced. This kid was not expressing this innocent viewpoint. The Bye was not an innocent bye. It was bullying plain and simple. If expressing joy at the thought of the other kid being ejected from the country due to religion is not bullying and ridiculously awful.

The kid is a 5th grader, so this is not an evaluation of the bully's deep intentions and soul. As pointed out, its likely he's just parroting surrounding adults. But it needs to be pointed out that what he did was unacceptable.

People act as if these kinds of things are inevitable and unavoidable. It's not. And telling people to eat the shit fed to them is not the right lesson.

In addition, its nuts that a 5th grader can even be a Trump supporter. National politics were so far from my mind at that age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I tell my son that a lot of trump supporters don't really pay attention to him and don't see a lot of his racism and bigotry. They are just thinking of his reputation and reality show. They want change. Not everyone follows politics closely.

I stress that racism, sexism, and bigotry are wrong. Because those are our family values. And a lot of what trump says is racist, sexist, and bigoted. But that doesn't mean kids who like him are. They are kids. They are almost always parroting what their parents say.

The fact that you think all of their parents are racist, sexist, and bigots that support a candidate that you THINK is, IS the main issue here. I don't support Hillary at all. I think she is a cheat, a liar, a killer, and has paid and manipulated her way to this endorsement. I also don't want her ass of a husband back in the white house. He should have been impeached. I don't go around saying all of their supporters are liars, cheats, killers, etc... There is no difference. Only in your perception of the situation.

Just like why does everyone ask Ivanka what they think about her Dad being a sexist yet they never ask Chelsea the same thing about her Dad. Somehow he gets a hall pass I guess. He treated interns and others in the white house like play toys. Manipulated them for his own self pleasure and lied about it. A head strong woman would have left in a heartbeat. Hillary? Yuck, she stayed with him. I don't want my daughters emulating her.

Read again. I said the exact opposite of this. A lot of his supporters don't see his racism and bigotry because they aren't paying attention. Now, those who do pay attention? They either like him for his racism/sexism/bigotry, or they are willing to set it aside to achieve their political goals. I personally don't know how anyone can set aside his dismal track record. They are still too comfortable with it for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. THis forum is pretty scary and sad. The kid being the Trump supporter was the pretext. THeoretically its possible to be a Trump supporter and not be prejudiced. This kid was not expressing this innocent viewpoint. The Bye was not an innocent bye. It was bullying plain and simple. If expressing joy at the thought of the other kid being ejected from the country due to religion is not bullying and ridiculously awful.

The kid is a 5th grader, so this is not an evaluation of the bully's deep intentions and soul. As pointed out, its likely he's just parroting surrounding adults. But it needs to be pointed out that what he did was unacceptable.

People act as if these kinds of things are inevitable and unavoidable. It's not. And telling people to eat the shit fed to them is not the right lesson.

In addition, its nuts that a 5th grader can even be a Trump supporter. National politics were so far from my mind at that age.

I agree. This all sounds made up.

[Anonymous]

NP, I clicked this post and now it looks like a troll post. If it is true, then OP you are the worst. You are looking to start trouble. Teach your child you don't pick on others without expecting them to say something mean back
The people who say to report this are crazy and looking for drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. THis forum is pretty scary and sad. The kid being the Trump supporter was the pretext. THeoretically its possible to be a Trump supporter and not be prejudiced. This kid was not expressing this innocent viewpoint. The Bye was not an innocent bye. It was bullying plain and simple. If expressing joy at the thought of the other kid being ejected from the country due to religion is not bullying and ridiculously awful.

The kid is a 5th grader, so this is not an evaluation of the bully's deep intentions and soul. As pointed out, its likely he's just parroting surrounding adults. But it needs to be pointed out that what he did was unacceptable.

People act as if these kinds of things are inevitable and unavoidable. It's not. And telling people to eat the shit fed to them is not the right lesson.

In addition, its nuts that a 5th grader can even be a Trump supporter. National politics were so far from my mind at that age.

I agree. This all sounds made up.

Wasn't for me. I was watching watergate and Vietnam at 6 and 7. Boycotted Jimmy Carter's win by not eating peanuts when I was 9. My 9 year old boy is the same way.

[Anonymous]

this reminds me of the thread with the teacher punishing the little girl when you was imitating her mother having wine. the mother was incredibly upset about the teacher jumping to conclusions based on the girls interpretation of her mother's drinking. you, OP, are jumping to conclusions based on your interpretation of an exchange that took place between CHILDREN that you were not a part of. I am assuming that you got all your information from your own child and I'm guessing that you teased much of that out of your child, or encouraged your child along in your own hatred of Trump supporters. I think you should tell your daughter it's not polite to talk about politics and religion with people she doesn't know well. Your daughter was being rude and the fact that she and her friend got a rude response doesn't justify her rudeness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this reminds me of the thread with the teacher punishing the little girl when you was imitating her mother having wine. the mother was incredibly upset about the teacher jumping to conclusions based on the girls interpretation of her mother's drinking. you, OP, are jumping to conclusions based on your interpretation of an exchange that took place between CHILDREN that you were not a part of. I am assuming that you got all your information from your own child and I'm guessing that you teased much of that out of your child, or encouraged your child along in your own hatred of Trump supporters. I think you should tell your daughter it's not polite to talk about politics and religion with people she doesn't know well. Your daughter was being rude and the fact that she and her friend got a rude response doesn't justify her rudeness

+1k

People need to tell their children not to bring up politics in school. No good can come of it. It sounds like your daughter and her friend were bullying this boy and trying to get a reaction out of him. And when they did they were shocked! I feel sorry for your child. Having so much anger and hatred toward another child just because his parents have different politics than yours is really sad.

[Anonymous]

The girl was trolling the boy and got a reaction. That is in no way bullying (by him at least) Same as the OP here.

....and yes, Hillary should be in jail. I certainly would be if I did what she did with classified documents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are lots of families in this area who are Trump supporters and their children sit by silently while he is attacked by HRC supporters in their classrooms on a daily basis. They don't speak up because they will be hated on, happy lib parents? Look what you have taught your children, think like me or I will hate you and attack you. Yep, that's the lesson you have been spewing with your HRC love and Trump hate. Way to go, way to teach our kids to respect differences in opinion and to have a conversation. Good Job!

Completely agree. I usually vote Democrat and am not voting for Clinton. I would also say as someone who has been told things like Muslims cause the problems in the Middle East - by a teacher no less - that child, her parents and the original poster are drama queens. Trump is not about deporting all US Muslims, he's about installing immigration controls, which many of us fully support. Again my family is Muslim and we don't need your knee jerk liberal hysteria, we've faced real religious intolerance in this country and its not Trump.

I really, really hope what you wrote isn't true. No Muslim, American or otherwise, should support Trump. No thinking person should. He isn't only for "immigration controls." At one point, Trump advocated NOT allowing Muslim US citizens back into the country from abroad. He insults people for their differences constantly. The man is full of hate, and if you think your Muslim family is excepted because they are citizens or legal residents, you are very wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the girl was factually wrong and your daughter was being a mean girl along with her friend by targeting him based on his political "views." Maybe he didn't know she was a Muslim.

It sounds odd that you are deeming him not a nice kid any longer because at the ripe old age of 10 he is "supporting" a candidate you don't like.

Exactly the resonate expected from a trump supporter. Close minded and overly defensive.


I would not call what the boy did bullying unless it continues. If it continues, talk to the teacher. Schools have little tolrance for bigotry and racism. Poor little boy, being raised to be a close minded bigot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are lots of families in this area who are Trump supporters and their children sit by silently while he is attacked by HRC supporters in their classrooms on a daily basis. They don't speak up because they will be hated on, happy lib parents? Look what you have taught your children, think like me or I will hate you and attack you. Yep, that's the lesson you have been spewing with your HRC love and Trump hate. Way to go, way to teach our kids to respect differences in opinion and to have a conversation. Good Job!

Completely agree. I usually vote Democrat and am not voting for Clinton. I would also say as someone who has been told things like Muslims cause the problems in the Middle East - by a teacher no less - that child, her parents and the original poster are drama queens. Trump is not about deporting all US Muslims, he's about installing immigration controls, which many of us fully support. Again my family is Muslim and we don't need your knee jerk liberal hysteria, we've faced real religious intolerance in this country and its not Trump.

I really, really hope what you wrote isn't true. No Muslim, American or otherwise, should support Trump. No thinking person should. He isn't only for "immigration controls." At one point, Trump advocated NOT allowing Muslim US citizens back into the country from abroad. He insults people for their differences constantly. The man is full of hate, and if you think your Muslim family is excepted because they are citizens or legal residents, you are very wrong.

In your opinion - period. I can also say "no American, especially woman, should support Hillary as the first female president." No thinking person should.


Do you see how you come across? The PP has a right to her own opinion. The boy in the class has a right to his own opinion. You are bullying the PP by saying she is not a thinking person the same way the girls were bullying the boy into disrespecting his opinion. You rationalize it by saying everyone is racist, or stupid, or a bigot just like the OP. But in turn it is the opposite. You are the ones bullying and it makes people turn away from the democratic party even more.

Do you go around to anyone and everyone and spew your political views upon them. You are annoying.