Sure you do. |
These planted Coach Cathy commercials need to stop. Pathetic. |
Just report the post(s) |
Of course it is! |
That's why kids that are in the AAP program and are not really gifted keep going to http://www.mybestacademy.com/ |
Funny how the parents who prep their kids are actually the ones up in arms... don't deny it! ![]() |
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I honestly can't believe FCPS doesn't have some kind of qualifier for all kids who take the NNAT and CogAT. As in, if your child has ever been a student at one of these prepping mills, they are automatically disqualified from AAP consideration. But FCPS doesn't seem to mind a bit that many students are simply prepped to the hilt for these tests. Kind of renders AAP null and void, as far as I'm concerned. |
You do know that FCPS is so concerned about the cottage industry of test prepping that they had a special Fairfax version of the CogAT prepared, don't you? |
And you do know that won't stop preppers, don't you? They'll find their way around it; also, I'm sure the "special" version isn't that much different than the original. Same types of questions. |
My problem with this thread is that 1) some people think it is necessary, and 2) others exploit that expectation. And it is based on a flawed few of American culture and education. America is the land where we can afford to educate all.
Most (all?) of the parents pushing the prepping -- and there are some -- are recent immigrants coming from countries that have many gates to long-term success. Where, being tracked at 8 as having potential is key to having the opportunity at 14 or 18 or 40. In America, there are so many on-ramps to education...AAP helps challenge kids, but gen-ed does not preclude taking advanced courses in HS, and those kids are not at a disadvantage. TJ is a great high school, but that is because of the creativity of the students -- the 10 best at any school will do as well as anyone at TJ. My DD is in the 7th grade in AAP; we like it because she is a smart, nerdy kid and is in an environment where that is an asset not at liability. Now, the uber-preppers are trying to turn the education into a compassion. They are trying to effectively shame children that do not score 145; they think the score is what matters, when what matters is the inmate intelligence which should be represented by the score. Scoring 145 on the CogAT is not a life skill. Nor is 800 on the SAT. If I listed my SAT scores on my Resume, people would laugh at me. |
This is my son. He has ADHD, he is always a step behind developmentally and on top if it, he is the youngest kind in his AAP class. He is doing fine though. Like you say, no a shining star, but consistently good work. His AAP teacher is awesome and gives him a lot of oral tests because she can tell he is not developmentally ready to write pages describing what he has read. |
If ADHD isn't an issue, this kid may be like I was as a kid: bright, able to pick things up pretty easily, and as a result never really had to work hard to get passable grades and learn the material. As a result, I became extremely lazy with schoolwork and nearly flunked out of college due to not completing assignments (still aced most of my tests). Once I got my act together and learned how to study, I started doing really well again. Kids like this, IMO, are exactly who an advanced program should be for. He may actually need the extra little push to learn study skills and how to apply himself, and end up thriving in that environment more than he would in an "easier" academic program. |
In LCPS, they officially take kids into GT only if they get 97 percentile in Cogat or NNAT. When they officially declare the requirements like that, and if a really GT eligible kid doesn't score 97 without any prep (It is quite possible if they don't know anything about that test and how to answer the questions if they are not prepped and first time they are asked to take test), they are actually losing a chance. That's because they are really competing with a prepped kid, who can easily score 97+ because of the extra push they got. I seriously think there should be a different testing criteria than Cogat or NNAT test as a pre-eligibility test to consider for this program. |
Is AAP still a program for really gifted? Feel like it is downgraded to serve majorities.
GT used to target top 3~5% kids, now, watered to top 20%??? It's not the original GT anymore. |