Will Republicans get support from Hispanics by helping passing immigration reform?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, shocking --- a thread about Republican outreach to non-whites is overrun by racists. Guess it is no surprise that they are going the way of the dinosaurs as whites become a smaller and smaller percentage of the population.

I just wish the Republican slow motion death spiral would speed up a bit. It's so distasteful to watch.

I've been an Independent for over 30 years. You'll need to go somewhere else for your Democrat vs. Republican nonsense. I find both sides to be equally disgusting.

And the biggest racist I've ever met were liberal Democrats in Boston and SF.

I find it deplorable that Dems promise blacks the moon and then deliver to them a shit sandwich. Almost equally disgusting is that they eat it and ask for more every 2 years. But apparently they like shit sandwiches.

I have no idea what any of this means. Specifically what promises are you talking about? Specifically what was not done that was promised?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaking the truth is not racist.

Thinking your racist nonsense platitudes are true does not make them true or non-racist. They are both racist and nonsense.

[Anonymous]

The cry a "racist" is the last refuge of those who are losing the argument.

If you're against Obama's policies, then you're a racist. If you're against Democrats, then you're a racist. If you're against liberal policies, then you're a racist. If you're against progressive policies, then you're a racist. On and on and on.

I can point out a couple of large Democrat pol sites where the Obama cult supporters are upset with former Obama cult supporters over the NSA spying topic and calling them racists because they're supporting Snowden. So no one is off limits to these "I'm gonna yell racist" kooks.

The term holds no meaning anymore. Ignore it. I know I do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blacks are perpetually stupid. They put all their eggs in one basket (Democrats) and the D's simply take them for granted year after year after year. Can't feel sorry for someone who's stupid enough to vote 90% for the same political party. Cornell West and Tavis Smiley have noted this for years.

What? Rednecks are stupid....
And no, latinos will not vote republican.

[Anonymous]

38% of black children living in poverty

http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/

10,900,000 blacks live in poverty

21.5% of black households in this country were food insecure in 2011

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/income_wealth/cb12-172.html

Thanks Democrats! You've done a great job and 90% of us will keep voting for you. We love being poor and being treated as chattel.

Let this be a lesson to any Hispanics/Latinos out there. If you vote 80%-90% for one party, you're ripe to be used just like the Dems use the blacks now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
And no, latinos will not vote republican.

Bingo!

The Republicans supporting immigration reform are delusional if they think Latinos will vote for them if they support the passage of the legislation. It will not happen.

How many of the illegals who were given amnesty in 1986 became part of the Republican constituency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just a reality check that Republican support for immigration reform and enabling 11 million illegals to gain citizenship will most likely ultimately accrue to the benefit of the Democrats.

They'll go where the freebies exist, so you're right.

What will be interesting is the struggle between the Hispanics and the other minorities within the Democratic party looking to be recognized and heard. Most of the other groups they have in their back pocket without having to put out any effort to even listen to them. But Hispanics will require more effort and more money thrown their way, especially at first. We'll see what freebies they are offered over and above the regular freebies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The cry a "racist" is the last refuge of those who are losing the argument.

If you're against Obama's policies, then you're a racist. If you're against Democrats, then you're a racist. If you're against liberal policies, then you're a racist. If you're against progressive policies, then you're a racist. On and on and on.

I can point out a couple of large Democrat pol sites where the Obama cult supporters are upset with former Obama cult supporters over the NSA spying topic and calling them racists because they're supporting Snowden. So no one is off limits to these "I'm gonna yell racist" kooks.

The term holds no meaning anymore. Ignore it. I know I do.

Um, it's your party and attitudes that are going extinct. We don't need a "last refuge". We've got the whole future to enjoy.

You ignore it becasuse to acknowledge that your attitudes are racist would be painful.

I criticize Obama all the time, and no one calls me racist because I'm not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um, it's your party and attitudes that are going extinct. We don't need a "last refuge". We've got the whole future to enjoy.

You ignore it becasuse to acknowledge that your attitudes are racist would be painful.

I criticize Obama all the time, and no one calls me racist because I'm not.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.................................

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it would be a great idea for the "blacks" to vote for a party that is outright racist.

they do
and they will again
thats why its funny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:African Americans are hostile to the Republican party because of a decades long pattern of Republican hostility toward people of color.

This includes everything from overtly racist campaign rhetoric and advertising (Reagan, Jesse Helms, GWB in SC) to race-based voter suppression campaign strategies (caging, voter id laws that solve a totally non-existent problem, poll challenges to AA voters, robo-calls giving the wrong date for elections). If you Google "Republican party" and "consent decree", you will get lots of information about the many, many times that the GOP has been caught doing voter suppression and intimidation aimed at AA voters.

Several Republican politicians also either have ties to white supremacists or are avowed members of their organizations: David Duke (KKK), Jeff Hall (American Nazi party), Bill Roper (KKK), Loy Mauch (neo-Confederate), Shaun Winkler (Aryan Nation), James C. Russell, and Atlee Yarrow in Florida.

Many Republicans also occasionally slip and say clearly racist things in public, then try to claim that they never said those kinds of things before --- Jim Gile with "n*gger-rigging", Dennis Johnson with "Jew them down", Dan Young (R-AK) with "wetbacks". Others say things that are hard not to take as racist because of their tone or their inappropriateness --- Wilson with "You lie", Jan Brewer's wagging finger, Gingrich calling Obama a "foodstamp president." Then of course, there are the signs that show up at Tea Party rallys "put the white back in white house", "we've got a monkey in the zoo and a lying monkey in the white house." And on, and on and on.

Republicans have also been seen --- sometimes unfairly --- as being hostile to any federal program that helped African Americans (affirmative action, CHIP, WIC). Their racist baggage means that they don't get credit for things like the earned income tax credit, which was a Reagan initiative.

Comments like Mitts 47% stuff about all of the "takers" just perpetuated this, and it was most laughably apparent at the last CPAC when a forum on how the GOP can reach minorities degenerated into an angry mob of white people shouting insults at the AA speakers who had come to help them reach out to minorities.

Of course, the premise of this post --- that immigration reform should only be done to get some kind of credit, not because it's the right thing to do --- kind of makes the point in and of itself.

Robert Byrd? Oh yeah, he doesn't count....

You truly are a sheep. Baaah!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some things are so blatantly stupid and racist they're not worth wasting paragraphs "disproving," you know?

Yes, the truth about blacks still living in poverty years after the Dems told them they would alleviate them of that problem is racist.

And that's why they'll stay poor.

You are right.
South Africa must put an end to the poverty of blacks, America with its resources should show by example. The blacks worked without salary for 200 years, so this is something owed to them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are right.
South Africa must put an end to the poverty of blacks, America with its resources should show by example. The blacks worked without salary for 200 years, so this is something owed to them

I agree. Let's do something right now.

OK, everyone on this board who ever owned a slave, pony up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:African Americans are hostile to the Republican party because of a decades long pattern of Republican hostility toward people of color.

This includes everything from overtly racist campaign rhetoric and advertising (Reagan, Jesse Helms, GWB in SC) to race-based voter suppression campaign strategies (caging, voter id laws that solve a totally non-existent problem, poll challenges to AA voters, robo-calls giving the wrong date for elections). If you Google "Republican party" and "consent decree", you will get lots of information about the many, many times that the GOP has been caught doing voter suppression and intimidation aimed at AA voters.

Several Republican politicians also either have ties to white supremacists or are avowed members of their organizations: David Duke (KKK), Jeff Hall (American Nazi party), Bill Roper (KKK), Loy Mauch (neo-Confederate), Shaun Winkler (Aryan Nation), James C. Russell, and Atlee Yarrow in Florida.

Many Republicans also occasionally slip and say clearly racist things in public, then try to claim that they never said those kinds of things before --- Jim Gile with "n*gger-rigging", Dennis Johnson with "Jew them down", Dan Young (R-AK) with "wetbacks". Others say things that are hard not to take as racist because of their tone or their inappropriateness --- Wilson with "You lie", Jan Brewer's wagging finger, Gingrich calling Obama a "foodstamp president." Then of course, there are the signs that show up at Tea Party rallys "put the white back in white house", "we've got a monkey in the zoo and a lying monkey in the white house." And on, and on and on.

Republicans have also been seen --- sometimes unfairly --- as being hostile to any federal program that helped African Americans (affirmative action, CHIP, WIC). Their racist baggage means that they don't get credit for things like the earned income tax credit, which was a Reagan initiative.

Comments like Mitts 47% stuff about all of the "takers" just perpetuated this, and it was most laughably apparent at the last CPAC when a forum on how the GOP can reach minorities degenerated into an angry mob of white people shouting insults at the AA speakers who had come to help them reach out to minorities.

Of course, the premise of this post --- that immigration reform should only be done to get some kind of credit, not because it's the right thing to do --- kind of makes the point in and of itself.

Robert Byrd? Oh yeah, he doesn't count....

You truly are a sheep. Baaah!

omg you can talk about Robert Byrd all day and night but it pales in comparison to the GOP.

Conservatives want ethical socialism. Everyone is equal because no one is perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives want ethical socialism. Everyone is equal because no one is perfect.

Sounds good. "With liberty and justice for all" has a nice ring to it. Sounds a lot better than "These people need special rights because of past injustices." That just leads to redistribution of liberty from one group to another and creates unnecessary conflict.

-MKJ