Matty and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I love me some Matty, but I really don't think they were an item. And she can do better.

But if they were, she should have known better. Seriously. How would this have lasted.

They did have a brief fling. I don’t think that’s really debatable. But it’s not a multi year secret obsession that the fan girls think it is.


Agreed. She idolized him from afar.


I believe it wasn’t that afar at all. She has probably been hooking up with him on and off for years. Her songs make that pretty obvious, eg “Every time you are touching me, every time you are loving me, Oh Lord, save me, my drug is my baby, I get so high, every time…”
She told him in End Game, “I’m one call away whenever you need me…. Drinking on a beach, you all over me.”
False God on the Lover album details the touching and kissing. A number of Songs on Folklore and Evermore too. And if Style is indeed about Matty, then this love goes farther and deeper than any of us suspect.

Then there are his songs with references of them being together way before 2023. Eg, About You: “With nothing to do, I could lay and just look in your eyes.”

I feel like a lot of these lyric connections are reaching. Like Harry STYLEs is also a tattooed, smoking, James Dean wannabe. And she and Joe did in fact have romantic vacations on the beach.


She and Harry did not have to hide and take long drives in the middle of the night

Reputation is absolutely about Matty Healy. Big reputations, we’ll be a big conversation.


1989, the album Style is on, was released in October 2014. Taylor didn't even meet Matty until the next month, November 2014.
https://people.com/music/taylor-swift-matty-healy-relationship-timeline/

Taylor is good, but she's not THAT good.


They dated publicly in November 2014. It’s unclear when they actually met for the first time. They have common friends and attend the same parties, house get togethers and events. There are articles and rumors circulating that she has been fan girling him at his bands’ concerts starting around late 2013/early 2014.


+1.
Her song All You Had To Do Was Stay from the 1989 album is very Matty & "Robbers" coded. Slut! from the 1989 Vaults (if we are to believe her) that was released last fall is likely about Matty Healy. He even recorded some verses with her last year that were removed after they broke up:

https://www.capitalfm.com/news/the-1975-verse-taylor-swift-cut-slut-matty-healy/

"Got lovesick, all over my bed (I'm blushing)
Love to think you'll never forget...
Adorned with smoke on my clothes (he smokes, not Harry nor Joe)
Lovelorn and nobody knows (until TTPD, but now we do 🤣)
Send the code, he's waiting there
The sticks and stones they throw froze mid-air..."
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I feel like a lot of these lyric connections are reaching.


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“All those nights you kept me going, swirled you into all of my poems.”

Prime example of a reach.
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In 1975's video "Oh Caroline" he is definitely talking about Taylor and mimics her dance moves, from Delicate. I just noticed the blonde girl is wearing the same dress Taylor has on it "Delicate" video too. The lyrics are heartbreaking. 💔
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Anonymous wrote:In 1975's video "Oh Caroline" he is definitely talking about Taylor and mimics her dance moves, from Delicate. I just noticed the blonde girl is wearing the same dress Taylor has on it "Delicate" video too. The lyrics are heartbreaking. 💔


Delicate must be another song about Matty Healy, otherwise why would he make such an obvious reference in his video? They left each other secret clues that they knew the other one would recognize immediately and know it's about them, while we were clueless.

The lyrics about how she doesn't want to share him, do the girls back home touch him like she does, you can't make promises but you can make me a drink, and “sometimes when I look into your eyes I pretend you're mine all the damn time” make no sense for Joe because this was released in November 2017, and they had already been dating and exclusive for almost a year at that point.
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Anonymous wrote:In 1975's video "Oh Caroline" he is definitely talking about Taylor and mimics her dance moves, from Delicate. I just noticed the blonde girl is wearing the same dress Taylor has on it "Delicate" video too. The lyrics are heartbreaking. 💔


Delicate must be another song about Matty Healy, otherwise why would he make such an obvious reference in his video? They left each other secret clues that they knew the other one would recognize immediately and know it's about them, while we were clueless.

The lyrics about how she doesn't want to share him, do the girls back home touch him like she does, you can't make promises but you can make me a drink, and “sometimes when I look into your eyes I pretend you're mine all the damn time” make no sense for Joe because this was released in November 2017, and they had already been dating and exclusive for almost a year at that point.


This is prime reaching. Are we now to believe that almost every song in the last 10 years is about Matty?

Delicate is clearly about Joe. She references his blue eyes and outfit choices. You understand that albums aren’t produced and released in a few days? She surely wrote and maybe even recorded that toward the beginning of the relationship with Joe.
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Anonymous wrote:I love me some Matty, but I really don't think they were an item. And she can do better.

But if they were, she should have known better. Seriously. How would this have lasted.

They did have a brief fling. I don’t think that’s really debatable. But it’s not a multi year secret obsession that the fan girls think it is.


Agreed. She idolized him from afar.


I believe it wasn’t that afar at all. She has probably been hooking up with him on and off for years. Her songs make that pretty obvious, eg “Every time you are touching me, every time you are loving me, Oh Lord, save me, my drug is my baby, I get so high, every time…”
She told him in End Game, “I’m one call away whenever you need me…. Drinking on a beach, you all over me.”
False God on the Lover album details the touching and kissing. A number of Songs on Folklore and Evermore too. And if Style is indeed about Matty, then this love goes farther and deeper than any of us suspect.

Then there are his songs with references of them being together way before 2023. Eg, About You: “With nothing to do, I could lay and just look in your eyes.”

I feel like a lot of these lyric connections are reaching. Like Harry STYLEs is also a tattooed, smoking, James Dean wannabe. And she and Joe did in fact have romantic vacations on the beach.


She and Harry did not have to hide and take long drives in the middle of the night

Reputation is absolutely about Matty Healy. Big reputations, we’ll be a big conversation.


1989, the album Style is on, was released in October 2014. Taylor didn't even meet Matty until the next month, November 2014.
https://people.com/music/taylor-swift-matty-healy-relationship-timeline/

Taylor is good, but she's not THAT good.


They dated publicly in November 2014. It’s unclear when they actually met for the first time. They have common friends and attend the same parties, house get togethers and events. There are articles and rumors circulating that she has been fan girling him at his bands’ concerts starting around late 2013/early 2014.


We know they first met in November 2014. Matty says it in this interview. Stop being insane and making up your own facts. Nothing on 1989 is about him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmWQu5fRyiw
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Anonymous wrote:In 1975's video "Oh Caroline" he is definitely talking about Taylor and mimics her dance moves, from Delicate. I just noticed the blonde girl is wearing the same dress Taylor has on it "Delicate" video too. The lyrics are heartbreaking. 💔


Delicate must be another song about Matty Healy, otherwise why would he make such an obvious reference in his video? They left each other secret clues that they knew the other one would recognize immediately and know it's about them, while we were clueless.

The lyrics about how she doesn't want to share him, do the girls back home touch him like she does, you can't make promises but you can make me a drink, and “sometimes when I look into your eyes I pretend you're mine all the damn time” make no sense for Joe because this was released in November 2017, and they had already been dating and exclusive for almost a year at that point.


This is prime reaching. Are we now to believe that almost every song in the last 10 years is about Matty?

Delicate is clearly about Joe. She references his blue eyes and outfit choices. You understand that albums aren’t produced and released in a few days? She surely wrote and maybe even recorded that toward the beginning of the relationship with Joe.

Yes. That is what the fangirls are claiming. They’ll be back with more lyrics “proving” it.
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Anonymous wrote:In 1975's video "Oh Caroline" he is definitely talking about Taylor and mimics her dance moves, from Delicate. I just noticed the blonde girl is wearing the same dress Taylor has on it "Delicate" video too. The lyrics are heartbreaking. 💔


Delicate must be another song about Matty Healy, otherwise why would he make such an obvious reference in his video? They left each other secret clues that they knew the other one would recognize immediately and know it's about them, while we were clueless.

The lyrics about how she doesn't want to share him, do the girls back home touch him like she does, you can't make promises but you can make me a drink, and “sometimes when I look into your eyes I pretend you're mine all the damn time” make no sense for Joe because this was released in November 2017, and they had already been dating and exclusive for almost a year at that point.


If this is true then Joe must’ve been a contract relationship and definitely not someone she intended to marry. It also would reflect arrested development/immaturity or something - pining for 10 years without being together? I just don’t buy it.
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It was thought by many that this yearning lyrics were really about Karlie Kris’s, but nobody seems to think that anymore.
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Karlie Kloss^
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Anonymous wrote:It was thought by many that this yearning lyrics were really about Karlie Kris’s, but nobody seems to think that anymore.

Yes because now people have a new theory and are running with it. People were DIE HARD that Taylor was secretly in love with Karlie. Now it’s Matty. It will be someone else in 5 years.
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Anonymous wrote:In 1975's video "Oh Caroline" he is definitely talking about Taylor and mimics her dance moves, from Delicate. I just noticed the blonde girl is wearing the same dress Taylor has on it "Delicate" video too. The lyrics are heartbreaking. 💔


Delicate must be another song about Matty Healy, otherwise why would he make such an obvious reference in his video? They left each other secret clues that they knew the other one would recognize immediately and know it's about them, while we were clueless.

The lyrics about how she doesn't want to share him, do the girls back home touch him like she does, you can't make promises but you can make me a drink, and “sometimes when I look into your eyes I pretend you're mine all the damn time” make no sense for Joe because this was released in November 2017, and they had already been dating and exclusive for almost a year at that point.


This is prime reaching. Are we now to believe that almost every song in the last 10 years is about Matty?

Delicate is clearly about Joe. She references his blue eyes and outfit choices. You understand that albums aren’t produced and released in a few days? She surely wrote and maybe even recorded that toward the beginning of the relationship with Joe.


Not clear at all. She never mentions eyes? When she sings about the color blue it’s right after talking about clothes and Nikes. Matty is almost always in black & white clothes, but there was a time when he wore a really stunning blue Nike hoodie that fans were commenting on because it was so unusual for him. I am a fan of The 1975 so I remember details like that.

I think Taylor has used red herrings in songs in the past to divert attention, but there are references to locations, times of day (I should say night and word exchanges in her songs that the person they are about would recognize immediately.
They both have big egos and pride, and I just don’t think it makes sense for Matty to have done the Oh Caroline video & dance as a twin to the Delicate dance if there were no references to him in Delicate.
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Anonymous wrote:It was thought by many that this yearning lyrics were really about Karlie Kris’s, but nobody seems to think that anymore.

Yes because now people have a new theory and are running with it. People were DIE HARD that Taylor was secretly in love with Karlie. Now it’s Matty. It will be someone else in 5 years.


It’s not a theory. She told us herself. CLEAR as day in the new album: you were my best friend, my “twin”, swirled you in all of my songs, loss of my life etc. Matty is in all of the songs on the new album that have a reference to love and loss except So Long, London, The Alchemy and So High School. So that leaves about a minimum of 16 songs about Matty Healy 😜
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I too suspect they knew each other prior to 1989's release and some (many?) songs on that album are about Matty. This Love, How You Get the Girl, Clean, Style...could easily all be all inspired by Matty.

"This love is good, This love is bad, This love is alive back from the dead, This love left a permanent mark..." -> "I knew you'd linger like a tattoo kiss" -> tattooed golden retriever.

Blank Space -> imgonnagetyouback (spelled with no blank spaces, because MH filled them?). Just sayin'.
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Anonymous wrote:It was thought by many that this yearning lyrics were really about Karlie Kris’s, but nobody seems to think that anymore.

Yes because now people have a new theory and are running with it. People were DIE HARD that Taylor was secretly in love with Karlie. Now it’s Matty. It will be someone else in 5 years.


It’s not a theory. She told us herself. CLEAR as day in the new album: you were my best friend, my “twin”, swirled you in all of my songs, loss of my life etc. Matty is in all of the songs on the new album that have a reference to love and loss except So Long, London, The Alchemy and So High School. So that leaves about a minimum of 16 songs about Matty Healy 😜

Nope. Just an invented narrative on social media to draw attention to those posting for $$ and for more people to listen to Taylor which is $$$$$$$$ for Taylor. Job well done for TayTay.
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