TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before the school had all gifted to above average students. Now, the bottom has been added, is on a lower track. Tracking is usually not good but even worse when you are in a magnet. Watch the bottom suffer in college admissions.

Bottom is far from worrying about college admissions, immediate concerns are Cs and Ds, remedial help, and the dreaded Calc AB, minimum required to graduate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before the school had all gifted to above average students. Now, the bottom has been added, is on a lower track. Tracking is usually not good but even worse when you are in a magnet. Watch the bottom suffer in college admissions.

Bottom is far from worrying about college admissions, immediate concerns are Cs and Ds, remedial help, and the dreaded Calc AB, minimum required to graduate.

Thank you for telling us what they are worried about. I am not a mind reader so I could not know that they would be worried about calc rather than about college admissions. I never would have guessed that, tbh.

[Anonymous]

Everyone knew this was coming. Next will be a big shift in the types of college acceptances beyond the top kids for the ‘25 graduating class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It really is a shame that TJ's overall rating from US News and World Report slipped from a 100 to a 99.92.

Absolutely devastating. /s

It’s a big fall. You can accept it or ostrich it.

[Anonymous]

Really sad. DC got so much from TJ- last class before changed. Don’t understand the need to ruin the school.

[Anonymous]

It is a 2020-2021 article .. stop the propaganda shit

[Anonymous]

Still apropos:

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”

https://wtop.com/education/2023/08/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/

[Anonymous]

How much of this is due to US News adding more BASIS schools and small charters to the pool of evaluated schools?

I guess Fairfax could eliminate TJ with its 2000 kids and set up four different schools in the same building, each with 500 kids and different names and principals. Let’s say the schools were tiered, with the top admits in TJ #1, the second quartile in TJ #2, the third quartile in TJ #3, and the bottom rung in TJ #4. Then FCPS could probably have two schools in the top 5 or 10 again, but the academic experience of the students wouldn’t necessarily be all that different. Obviously, it would just be gaming the system to have a more highly ranked school or schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a 2020-2021 article .. stop the propaganda shit

You stop it. It just came out today or yesterday. Why do people do this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much of this is due to US News adding more BASIS schools and small charters to the pool of evaluated schools?

I guess Fairfax could eliminate TJ with its 2000 kids and set up four different schools in the same building, each with 500 kids and different names and principals. Let’s say the schools were tiered, with the top admits in TJ #1, the second quartile in TJ #2, the third quartile in TJ #3, and the bottom rung in TJ #4. Then FCPS could probably have two schools in the top 5 or 10 again, but the academic experience of the students wouldn’t necessarily be all that different. Obviously, it would just be gaming the system to have a more highly ranked school or schools.

Just wow.. you must be one of them that genius who voted for the "equity" brigade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The principal in one of the recent emails expressed concerns with significant number of admitted "9th grade students scoring below proficient on the initial Math Inventory", and needing to put them on ALEKS remedial math starting in the third month itself. If admissions was merit based, remedial math should not be needed at the school start.

With a lower caliber student body being admitted using equity instead of merit as the criteria, TJ's ranking continues to decline from 1st in the nation to now 14th nationally.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/VAEDUFCPS/bulletins/38d509c

Before the admissions change in 2021, less than 4% of students had the lowest level of middle school math, Algebra 1. With the removal of the admissions test and to increase equity, approximately 30% of admitted class constituted of Algebra 1 students, many of whom require remedial classes after entering TJ.

The national ranking can only endure such a decline in talent for a limited time. It dropped from 1st to 5th after the admissions change, and now to 14th.

So it might drop further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much of this is due to US News adding more BASIS schools and small charters to the pool of evaluated schools?

I guess Fairfax could eliminate TJ with its 2000 kids and set up four different schools in the same building, each with 500 kids and different names and principals. Let’s say the schools were tiered, with the top admits in TJ #1, the second quartile in TJ #2, the third quartile in TJ #3, and the bottom rung in TJ #4. Then FCPS could probably have two schools in the top 5 or 10 again, but the academic experience of the students wouldn’t necessarily be all that different. Obviously, it would just be gaming the system to have a more highly ranked school or schools.

Equity sheep couldnt get one thing right - do outreach to recruit qualified applicants from bottom schools. Now, blabbering about creating more schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lawsuits about the "controversial" admissions changes were national news. Of course they mentioned them.

These rankings always lag a few years behind. People now know how toxic TJ was, and it's reflected in its ratings, but things will eventually start improving once the better process gets recognized.

You can argue "better process" all day long, but unless USNWP puts a lot more weight on diversity, TJ's ranking will suffer. More importantly, the kids who made it into TJ by the skin of their teeth will be stressed and hard pressed to keep up, and if teachers are forced to dumb things down, the education of the entire student body will decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much of this is due to US News adding more BASIS schools and small charters to the pool of evaluated schools?

I guess Fairfax could eliminate TJ with its 2000 kids and set up four different schools in the same building, each with 500 kids and different names and principals. Let’s say the schools were tiered, with the top admits in TJ #1, the second quartile in TJ #2, the third quartile in TJ #3, and the bottom rung in TJ #4. Then FCPS could probably have two schools in the top 5 or 10 again, but the academic experience of the students wouldn’t necessarily be all that different. Obviously, it would just be gaming the system to have a more highly ranked school or schools.

Fcps gamed the system in the name of equity. In exchange for that, they gave up being one of the top ranked schools. Additionally, they gave up being a true magnet school in the intended meaning Of that term

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much of this is due to US News adding more BASIS schools and small charters to the pool of evaluated schools?

I guess Fairfax could eliminate TJ with its 2000 kids and set up four different schools in the same building, each with 500 kids and different names and principals. Let’s say the schools were tiered, with the top admits in TJ #1, the second quartile in TJ #2, the third quartile in TJ #3, and the bottom rung in TJ #4. Then FCPS could probably have two schools in the top 5 or 10 again, but the academic experience of the students wouldn’t necessarily be all that different. Obviously, it would just be gaming the system to have a more highly ranked school or schools.

Fcps gamed the system in the name of equity. In exchange for that, they gave up being one of the top ranked schools. Additionally, they gave up being a true magnet school in the intended meaning Of that term

haha now you're saying TJ isn't a magnet anymore? y'all are hilarious