+1 seriously naive phase |
I think it gave a lot of parents of kids in the top 10-20% unrealistic hope. Kids stats are good compared to peers at their school, but not competitive for top10 schools. It is married to the every kid gets a medal philosophy and many parents really overestimate how “exceptional” their kid is academically. |
Or the opposite a kid can be exceptionally smart, getting good but not perfect grades taking the hardest classes, have interesting and very unique ECs and get a 35/36 or the like and now have a better shot. As they should over a kid who took easier classes and can’t get above a 32. |
This is definitely not the case. You are clueless about the degree of grade inflation in most high schools. The colleges can look at admitted students scores after the fact, even if not submitted. They have definitely mentioned finding TO kids scoring less than 1400. |
Maybe, but these top schools like MIT and Cornell sure think it's an important data point. |
Glad schools are finally coming to their senses. I’m sure they let in kids they shouldn’t have who are sadly now struggling to do the work. |
That’s what UT found and I’m sure other universities did their own analysis: https://news.utexas.edu/2024/03/11/ut-austin-reinstates-standardized-test-scores-in-admissions/#:~:text=Analysis%20of%20the%20University's%20own,part%20of%20a%20holistic%20review. |
Yes, it is. I have personal and professional experience here. How many under 1400? Answer: not that many. If you think insults help you prove your agenda, think again. |
The reason why the percentage of applicants that submitted scores to Cornell was so low is because three of the eight colleges -- CALS, AAP, and Johnson College of Business (which includes the School of Hotel Administration and the Dyson School of Applied Economics) -- were test blind while the other five colleges were test optional. So any students applying to the three test blind colleges wouldn't have submitted any score. |
What agenda? And please share your personal and professional experience, which clearly didn’t include working on the analysis of importance of test scores released by several of these schools |
Test Optional is definitely over. The TO zealots are gonna have to face the music. |
My kid is 2026 applying. It will be hard for these kids as they won’t know the 25/50/75 for SAT scores . |
How does it make it hard? You choose to apply and have to send your test scores. The bands only meaningful before when there was a gamble on whether to submit scores or not. |
ridic |
It will be hard to determine target reach and safety |