Cornell Test Required starting 2026

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like higher ed is slowly coming out of the idiot phase..

+1 seriously naive phase

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Anonymous wrote:Come back for your just desserts, smug parents who crowed about TO being here to stay!

I didn't think I'd ever enjoy being this right THIS much!

I don't remember any smug parents crowing, but TO has bern the policy of some schools for decades, some test blind. I'm sure some who went TO during the pandemic may stay TO. No school that was TO pre-pandemic is now requiring tests.
Also, testing is just one data point. Even when required, it is not going to make a huge difference to most applications.

On the contrary, I think it's going to eliminate many students. Schools that are test required are going to use AI to screen apps for minimum GPAs and test scores. Some with low scores won't apply.

LACs and schools that were test optional will likely stay test optional as long as they can handle the volume of apps they get. But I expect most schools that weren't test optional before covid will switch back for the class of 2026.

I doubt many low scorers were viable during TO. Those applying TO were likely upper 1400s/33 range. It is very unlikely a kid who is really not cutting it on SAT is rocking APs/DEs and generating the kind of app needed for admission to top schools. Your estimation of it is just too simplistic.

I think it gave a lot of parents of kids in the top 10-20% unrealistic hope. Kids stats are good compared to peers at their school, but not competitive for top10 schools.


It is married to the every kid gets a medal philosophy and many parents really overestimate how “exceptional” their kid is academically.

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Or the opposite a kid can be exceptionally smart, getting good but not perfect grades taking the hardest classes, have interesting and very unique ECs and get a 35/36 or the like and now have a better shot. As they should over a kid who took easier classes and can’t get above a 32.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back for your just desserts, smug parents who crowed about TO being here to stay!

I didn't think I'd ever enjoy being this right THIS much!

I don't remember any smug parents crowing, but TO has bern the policy of some schools for decades, some test blind. I'm sure some who went TO during the pandemic may stay TO. No school that was TO pre-pandemic is now requiring tests.
Also, testing is just one data point. Even when required, it is not going to make a huge difference to most applications.

On the contrary, I think it's going to eliminate many students. Schools that are test required are going to use AI to screen apps for minimum GPAs and test scores. Some with low scores won't apply.

LACs and schools that were test optional will likely stay test optional as long as they can handle the volume of apps they get. But I expect most schools that weren't test optional before covid will switch back for the class of 2026.

I doubt many low scorers were viable during TO. Those applying TO were likely upper 1400s/33 range. It is very unlikely a kid who is really not cutting it on SAT is rocking APs/DEs and generating the kind of app needed for admission to top schools. Your estimation of it is just too simplistic.

This is definitely not the case. You are clueless about the degree of grade inflation in most high schools.

The colleges can look at admitted students scores after the fact, even if not submitted. They have definitely mentioned finding TO kids scoring less than 1400.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come back for your just desserts, smug parents who crowed about TO being here to stay!

I didn't think I'd ever enjoy being this right THIS much!

I don't remember any smug parents crowing, but TO has bern the policy of some schools for decades, some test blind. I'm sure some who went TO during the pandemic may stay TO. No school that was TO pre-pandemic is now requiring tests.
Also, testing is just one data point. Even when required, it is not going to make a huge difference to most applications.

Maybe, but these top schools like MIT and Cornell sure think it's an important data point.

[Anonymous]

Glad schools are finally coming to their senses. I’m sure they let in kids they shouldn’t have who are sadly now struggling to do the work.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad schools are finally coming to their senses. I’m sure they let in kids they shouldn’t have who are sadly now struggling to do the work.

That’s what UT found and I’m sure other universities did their own analysis:

https://news.utexas.edu/2024/03/11/ut-austin-reinstates-standardized-test-scores-in-admissions/#:~:text=Analysis%20of%20the%20University's%20own,part%20of%20a%20holistic%20review.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back for your just desserts, smug parents who crowed about TO being here to stay!

I didn't think I'd ever enjoy being this right THIS much!

I don't remember any smug parents crowing, but TO has bern the policy of some schools for decades, some test blind. I'm sure some who went TO during the pandemic may stay TO. No school that was TO pre-pandemic is now requiring tests.
Also, testing is just one data point. Even when required, it is not going to make a huge difference to most applications.

On the contrary, I think it's going to eliminate many students. Schools that are test required are going to use AI to screen apps for minimum GPAs and test scores. Some with low scores won't apply.

LACs and schools that were test optional will likely stay test optional as long as they can handle the volume of apps they get. But I expect most schools that weren't test optional before covid will switch back for the class of 2026.

I doubt many low scorers were viable during TO. Those applying TO were likely upper 1400s/33 range. It is very unlikely a kid who is really not cutting it on SAT is rocking APs/DEs and generating the kind of app needed for admission to top schools. Your estimation of it is just too simplistic.

This is definitely not the case. You are clueless about the degree of grade inflation in most high schools.

The colleges can look at admitted students scores after the fact, even if not submitted. They have definitely mentioned finding TO kids scoring less than 1400.

Yes, it is. I have personal and professional experience here. How many under 1400? Answer: not that many. If you think insults help you prove your agenda, think again.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year only 24% of Cornell applicants submitted test scores. Let that sink in.

That is actually shocking.

Awful !

Should be very low in rankings based on that alone.

The reason why the percentage of applicants that submitted scores to Cornell was so low is because three of the eight colleges -- CALS, AAP, and Johnson College of Business (which includes the School of Hotel Administration and the Dyson School of Applied Economics) -- were test blind while the other five colleges were test optional. So any students applying to the three test blind colleges wouldn't have submitted any score.

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Anonymous wrote:Come back for your just desserts, smug parents who crowed about TO being here to stay!

I didn't think I'd ever enjoy being this right THIS much!

I don't remember any smug parents crowing, but TO has bern the policy of some schools for decades, some test blind. I'm sure some who went TO during the pandemic may stay TO. No school that was TO pre-pandemic is now requiring tests.
Also, testing is just one data point. Even when required, it is not going to make a huge difference to most applications.

On the contrary, I think it's going to eliminate many students. Schools that are test required are going to use AI to screen apps for minimum GPAs and test scores. Some with low scores won't apply.

LACs and schools that were test optional will likely stay test optional as long as they can handle the volume of apps they get. But I expect most schools that weren't test optional before covid will switch back for the class of 2026.

I doubt many low scorers were viable during TO. Those applying TO were likely upper 1400s/33 range. It is very unlikely a kid who is really not cutting it on SAT is rocking APs/DEs and generating the kind of app needed for admission to top schools. Your estimation of it is just too simplistic.

This is definitely not the case. You are clueless about the degree of grade inflation in most high schools.

The colleges can look at admitted students scores after the fact, even if not submitted. They have definitely mentioned finding TO kids scoring less than 1400.

Yes, it is. I have personal and professional experience here. How many under 1400? Answer: not that many. If you think insults help you prove your agenda, think again.

What agenda? And please share your personal and professional experience, which clearly didn’t include working on the analysis of importance of test scores released by several of these schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TO is over. Kids graduating 2025 have the last pass. Freshmen and Sophomores better get some tutoring!

Test Optional is definitely over. The TO zealots are gonna have to face the music.

[Anonymous]

My kid is 2026 applying. It will be hard for these kids as they won’t know the 25/50/75 for SAT scores .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is 2026 applying. It will be hard for these kids as they won’t know the 25/50/75 for SAT scores .

How does it make it hard? You choose to apply and have to send your test scores. The bands only meaningful before when there was a gamble on whether to submit scores or not.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is 2026 applying. It will be hard for these kids as they won’t know the 25/50/75 for SAT scores .

ridic

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is 2026 applying. It will be hard for these kids as they won’t know the 25/50/75 for SAT scores .

ridic

It will be hard to determine target reach and safety