Your morality is based in religion or yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:Probably 99.999% of humans self-define as “good” and “moral.”

100% of posters on this sub claim to be good and moral.

But I take the view that humans aren’t inherently good. We evolved from animals not long ago, and we still behave like animals—but well-armed ones with large prefrontal cortexes and flexible thumbs that are highly capable of planning immoral and bad things.

I’ve met Christians who think all non-Christians lack morals, which is the biggest load of hogwash I’ve ever heard! Religion can attempt to define morality, but claiming to be religious does not make one good.

Frederick Douglass said the worst and most abusive slaveowners were those who sang the loudest at church every Sunday.


Before the Revolutionary War, evangelical colonists were the primary advocates for the opposition to slavery and the slave trade, doing so on the basis of humanitarian ethics.

Evangelical Christians were behind the abolishment of slavery in the United States.

The first statement against slavery in Colonial America was written in 1688 by the Religious Society of Friends.

The Second Great Awakening of the 1820s and 1830s in religion inspired groups that undertook many types of social reform. For some that included the immediate abolition of slavery as they considered it sinful to hold slaves as well as to tolerate slavery. Opposition to slavery, for example, was one of the works of piety of the Methodist Churches, which were established by John Wesley.


Historian James Stewart (1976) explains the abolitionists' deep beliefs: "All people were equal in God's sight; the souls of black folks were as valuable as those of whites; for one of God's children to enslave another was a violation of the Higher Law, even if it was sanctioned by the Constitution." (gov says it’s ok to own slaves; religious Americans say even though it’s legal, it’s wrong.)

So Evangelical Christianity really stood up for the rights of enslaved Black Americans and helped abolish slavery, a fact conveniently ignored by people who post here.
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Conservative Baptist Network co-founder Rod Martin “recently resigned from the Executive Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) amidst criticism of his response to the massive sexual abuse scandal plaguing the SBC

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably 99.999% of humans self-define as “good” and “moral.”

100% of posters on this sub claim to be good and moral.

But I take the view that humans aren’t inherently good. We evolved from animals not long ago, and we still behave like animals—but well-armed ones with large prefrontal cortexes and flexible thumbs that are highly capable of planning immoral and bad things.

I’ve met Christians who think all non-Christians lack morals, which is the biggest load of hogwash I’ve ever heard! Religion can attempt to define morality, but claiming to be religious does not make one good.

Frederick Douglass said the worst and most abusive slaveowners were those who sang the loudest at church every Sunday.


Before the Revolutionary War, evangelical colonists were the primary advocates for the opposition to slavery and the slave trade, doing so on the basis of humanitarian ethics.

Evangelical Christians were behind the abolishment of slavery in the United States.

The first statement against slavery in Colonial America was written in 1688 by the Religious Society of Friends.

The Second Great Awakening of the 1820s and 1830s in religion inspired groups that undertook many types of social reform. For some that included the immediate abolition of slavery as they considered it sinful to hold slaves as well as to tolerate slavery. Opposition to slavery, for example, was one of the works of piety of the Methodist Churches, which were established by John Wesley.


Historian James Stewart (1976) explains the abolitionists' deep beliefs: "All people were equal in God's sight; the souls of black folks were as valuable as those of whites; for one of God's children to enslave another was a violation of the Higher Law, even if it was sanctioned by the Constitution." (gov says it’s ok to own slaves; religious Americans say even though it’s legal, it’s wrong.)

So Evangelical Christianity really stood up for the rights of enslaved Black Americans and helped abolish slavery, a fact conveniently ignored by people who post here.


WRONG!

Rooted in a belief that their duty to spread Christianity justified their actions, religious organizations did not only embrace human trafficking and the enslavement of millions of Africans—they actively participated.

https://eji.org/report/transatlantic-slave-trade/origins/sidebar/the-role-of-the-christian-church/

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably 99.999% of humans self-define as “good” and “moral.”

100% of posters on this sub claim to be good and moral.

But I take the view that humans aren’t inherently good. We evolved from animals not long ago, and we still behave like animals—but well-armed ones with large prefrontal cortexes and flexible thumbs that are highly capable of planning immoral and bad things.

I’ve met Christians who think all non-Christians lack morals, which is the biggest load of hogwash I’ve ever heard! Religion can attempt to define morality, but claiming to be religious does not make one good.

Frederick Douglass said the worst and most abusive slaveowners were those who sang the loudest at church every Sunday.


Before the Revolutionary War, evangelical colonists were the primary advocates for the opposition to slavery and the slave trade, doing so on the basis of humanitarian ethics.

Evangelical Christians were behind the abolishment of slavery in the United States.

The first statement against slavery in Colonial America was written in 1688 by the Religious Society of Friends.

The Second Great Awakening of the 1820s and 1830s in religion inspired groups that undertook many types of social reform. For some that included the immediate abolition of slavery as they considered it sinful to hold slaves as well as to tolerate slavery. Opposition to slavery, for example, was one of the works of piety of the Methodist Churches, which were established by John Wesley.


Historian James Stewart (1976) explains the abolitionists' deep beliefs: "All people were equal in God's sight; the souls of black folks were as valuable as those of whites; for one of God's children to enslave another was a violation of the Higher Law, even if it was sanctioned by the Constitution." (gov says it’s ok to own slaves; religious Americans say even though it’s legal, it’s wrong.)

So Evangelical Christianity really stood up for the rights of enslaved Black Americans and helped abolish slavery, a fact conveniently ignored by people who post here.


WRONG!

Rooted in a belief that their duty to spread Christianity justified their actions, religious organizations did not only embrace human trafficking and the enslavement of millions of Africans—they actively participated.

https://eji.org/report/transatlantic-slave-trade/origins/sidebar/the-role-of-the-christian-church/



Christian abolitionists absolutely were the driving force behind the United States abolishing slavery. I don’t see any citations at your link, claiming Christians were actively slavers.
Anonymous
Abolitionism - Timeline Movement
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1680 - 1865
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The earliest abolitionists in the United States were Quakers, who held the first anti-slavery demonstrations in Germantown Philadelphia in 1688 and banning slavery among Philadelphia members in the 1750s.

Evangelical Christians experienced a shift in attitudes toward slavery during the First and Second Great Awakenings (1730s-1770s; 1790s-1840s), as thousands of Americans underwent religious conversion experiences. However, some prominent revivalists (e.g., George Whitefield & Jonathan Edwards) remained in support of slavery.

Abolitionism continued into the 19th century as southern slavery persisted. Debates raged in the 1830s-1840s, as Philadelphia pastor and abolitionist Albert Barnes failed to change the minds of southern clergymen, who continued to publish Christian apologetics for slavery. Meanwhile, issues of slavery led to schisms among the Presbyterians, Baptists and Methodists.

Preceding and escalating the Civil War was Harriet Beecher Stowe’s abolitionist novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin (1852). It argued that Christian love could overcome the evils of slavery and helped convince many northerners to finally take a strong abolitionist stance.

https://www.thearda.com/us-religion/history/timelines/entry?etype=3&eid=41



Anonymous
Over 1 and 1/2 hour webinar on Christianity and the abolitionist movement. I don’t know why some posters are in denial and desperate to lie about the abolitionist movement and Christianity’s role in spearheading the abolition of slavery in the United States?

It’s probably the poster who repeatedly post how religion is a net evil in the world. They are determined to hate religion and ignore the good that religion has done. Nobody has to like religion but trying to pretend that Christian abolitionists didn’t begin and drive the movement to abolish slavery in the US is delusional and a straight up lie that becomes more and more hysterically obvious as delusional lies from a determined liar as they persist.



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