Days/ half days off for teacher development/ meetings

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I am your child's educator. I am not the babysitter. Take care of your own child.


I do take care of my own child. I would like to take care of her over a four day weekend where we take a trip vs. a random Wednesday half day where we can’t do anything. This isn’t an irrational ask.


It is irrational to assume that your preferences are representative of everyone. And no, parents don’t need more input into the schedule. Plan around the calendar that is provided and have a backup plan for emergency/unexpected days. I am a single parent with no family nearby and also a teacher. We all have things to work out and it is not anyone’s responsibility but our own to do so.



Right— this is precisely why parents need more input. There could be polling about what schedule made more sense. Trying to exclude parents from school policy is irrational.


They will never make everyone happy. That's why they just do what works best for them.


They take certain stakeholders into account like teachers unions. Parents should be more clear with the school board around election times what we want our representatives to advocate for on our behalf. No half days like Loudon seems like a smart start.


Teachers are also parents. Half days are also stressful for them since teachers stay and their children go home.

But teachers also need those half days to dig themselves out of the mandatory PDs, mandatory paperwork, etc. Unlike most other jobs, teachers are not allotted time during the school day to do mandatory work. Half days help reconcile that.

It isn’t a perfect system, clearly. If parents have another solution, let’s hear it.


No, teachers are professionals they know how to read a calendar and make arrangements for their children. They are not stressed out by this task.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents really need more input into the school calendar. I like random days off as much as the next person but they could be much better planned (half days are pointless) and executed so families could use them for vacation and enrichment.


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have them on mondays or fridays, for one. have them spaced out from other holidays. or right adjacent but not like - the week after.


Montgomery county has timed teacher work days to holidays (Eid and Lunar New Year for example ) but often parents don't realize it's a holiday for some segments of the community
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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I am your child's educator. I am not the babysitter. Take care of your own child.


I do take care of my own child. I would like to take care of her over a four day weekend where we take a trip vs. a random Wednesday half day where we can’t do anything. This isn’t an irrational ask.


It is irrational to assume that your preferences are representative of everyone. And no, parents don’t need more input into the schedule. Plan around the calendar that is provided and have a backup plan for emergency/unexpected days. I am a single parent with no family nearby and also a teacher. We all have things to work out and it is not anyone’s responsibility but our own to do so.



Right— this is precisely why parents need more input. There could be polling about what schedule made more sense. Trying to exclude parents from school policy is irrational.


They will never make everyone happy. That's why they just do what works best for them.


They take certain stakeholders into account like teachers unions. Parents should be more clear with the school board around election times what we want our representatives to advocate for on our behalf. No half days like Loudon seems like a smart start.


Teachers are also parents. Half days are also stressful for them since teachers stay and their children go home.

But teachers also need those half days to dig themselves out of the mandatory PDs, mandatory paperwork, etc. Unlike most other jobs, teachers are not allotted time during the school day to do mandatory work. Half days help reconcile that.

It isn’t a perfect system, clearly. If parents have another solution, let’s hear it.


No, teachers are professionals they know how to read a calendar and make arrangements for their children. They are not stressed out by this task.



I just put everything in my calendar and then call ahead for after school programs that offer full day childcare.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I am your child's educator. I am not the babysitter. Take care of your own child.


I do take care of my own child. I would like to take care of her over a four day weekend where we take a trip vs. a random Wednesday half day where we can’t do anything. This isn’t an irrational ask.


It is irrational to assume that your preferences are representative of everyone. And no, parents don’t need more input into the schedule. Plan around the calendar that is provided and have a backup plan for emergency/unexpected days. I am a single parent with no family nearby and also a teacher. We all have things to work out and it is not anyone’s responsibility but our own to do so.


We have our kids in private, $60k per child, so I'm the school's client and while I would never make a fuss about this, it does frustrate me that there's a tension between what I need to do to make enough to pay their fees, and random wednesdays off for 4 weeks in a row. Even if you are in public, the parent is still the client. The parent pays taxes that pay teacher fees. As a result, yes - schools need to operate in such a way as to enable parents to do the jobs that pay for those fees, directly or indirectly. That's why schools are the hours they are. So to randomly decide that creating a schedule that allows parents to work and earn money is NOT the responsibility of the school is patently unsustainable and false.


If school hours catered to a modern work day then school would be all year round there's be a longer school day
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You would pay a LOT more in taxes for that setup.
Anonymous
As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?
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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?


What is it about Monday and Friday that is worse for your administrative work than Tuesday and Wednesday?
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I am your child's educator. I am not the babysitter. Take care of your own child.


I do take care of my own child. I would like to take care of her over a four day weekend where we take a trip vs. a random Wednesday half day where we can’t do anything. This isn’t an irrational ask.


It is irrational to assume that your preferences are representative of everyone. And no, parents don’t need more input into the schedule. Plan around the calendar that is provided and have a backup plan for emergency/unexpected days. I am a single parent with no family nearby and also a teacher. We all have things to work out and it is not anyone’s responsibility but our own to do so.



Right— this is precisely why parents need more input. There could be polling about what schedule made more sense. Trying to exclude parents from school policy is irrational.


They will never make everyone happy. That's why they just do what works best for them.


They take certain stakeholders into account like teachers unions. Parents should be more clear with the school board around election times what we want our representatives to advocate for on our behalf. No half days like Loudon seems like a smart start.


Teachers are also parents. Half days are also stressful for them since teachers stay and their children go home.

But teachers also need those half days to dig themselves out of the mandatory PDs, mandatory paperwork, etc. Unlike most other jobs, teachers are not allotted time during the school day to do mandatory work. Half days help reconcile that.

It isn’t a perfect system, clearly. If parents have another solution, let’s hear it.


No, teachers are professionals they know how to read a calendar and make arrangements for their children. They are not stressed out by this task.



I just put everything in my calendar and then call ahead for after school programs that offer full day childcare.


I do this as well but I think it’s a waste. I like my aftercare options because they help maintain our language options, but I’d rather take more long weekends with my family than have my kid do a few more days of immersion.
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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?


What is it about Monday and Friday that is worse for your administrative work than Tuesday and Wednesday?


Can someone provide me a link to a calendar that has Tuesday or Wednesday off that isn't there because it's aligned with something else, like election day, or Eid, the end of the quarter?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?


What is it about Monday and Friday that is worse for your administrative work than Tuesday and Wednesday?


Can someone provide me a link to a calendar that has Tuesday or Wednesday off that isn't there because it's aligned with something else, like election day, or Eid, the end of the quarter?



Alexandria city just had March 5 (Tuesday) as a teacher work day, and as far I can see that’s only a state holiday in Vermont. They had conferences on Thursday for middle and high school students in September and February. Moving the Thursday to Monday doesn’t seem like a big lift, what am I missing?
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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to private school. No teacher planning days at all but we do have a half day every Friday.


Is it a Jewish school?
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Anonymous wrote:My school does a lot of these and I am a little resentful. I understand that they feel these things are needed, however they always seem to do it as a half day on a weds or something like that which is impossible to plan for as a working parent. I don't get why they don't tack these onto existing holidays when it's easier to get a sustained plan in place. Do others have this same experience with their schools?


What do you mean by tacking it onto an existing holiday? What would that look like? Making a 3 day weekend into a 4 day weekend?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?


What is it about Monday and Friday that is worse for your administrative work than Tuesday and Wednesday?


Can someone provide me a link to a calendar that has Tuesday or Wednesday off that isn't there because it's aligned with something else, like election day, or Eid, the end of the quarter?



Alexandria city just had March 5 (Tuesday) as a teacher work day, and as far I can see that’s only a state holiday in Vermont. They had conferences on Thursday for middle and high school students in September and February. Moving the Thursday to Monday doesn’t seem like a big lift, what am I missing?


That was the primary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?


What is it about Monday and Friday that is worse for your administrative work than Tuesday and Wednesday?


Can someone provide me a link to a calendar that has Tuesday or Wednesday off that isn't there because it's aligned with something else, like election day, or Eid, the end of the quarter?



Alexandria city just had March 5 (Tuesday) as a teacher work day, and as far I can see that’s only a state holiday in Vermont. They had conferences on Thursday for middle and high school students in September and February. Moving the Thursday to Monday doesn’t seem like a big lift, what am I missing?


I thought the whining was about childcare, and about people wanting to take vacations. Childcare isn't a concern for middle and high school, and obviously it's not in the school's interest to have people skipping conference for vacations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am really curious if people would be ok if your work was scheduled the way people seem to think my work should be scheduled, with no regard for the actual work.

So, for example, if you get time “off” from your job to take depositions after the trial because it works better for the judge’s childcare, is that OK?


What is it about Monday and Friday that is worse for your administrative work than Tuesday and Wednesday?


Can someone provide me a link to a calendar that has Tuesday or Wednesday off that isn't there because it's aligned with something else, like election day, or Eid, the end of the quarter?



Alexandria city just had March 5 (Tuesday) as a teacher work day, and as far I can see that’s only a state holiday in Vermont. They had conferences on Thursday for middle and high school students in September and February. Moving the Thursday to Monday doesn’t seem like a big lift, what am I missing?


I thought the whining was about childcare, and about people wanting to take vacations. Childcare isn't a concern for middle and high school, and obviously it's not in the school's interest to have people skipping conference for vacations.


I just looked at the calendar. They had early dismissal on Thursday and Friday. Why would Friday and Monday be better? If you're willing to miss a half day to get a three day weekend, why wouldn't you miss Friday in this situation, as opposed to Monday?
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