Is the future of higher ed in the South?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For female students, the South is pretty dangerous. They'd have very little say in their own healthcare - even in the case of a life-threatening emergency.

For males - it's a little easier. However, my son and his cousin had a conversation the other day about how they think they'd have a hard time going to college in a red state. I was proud of them for really thinking it through. My son is being recruited at many schools in red states. The schools are progressive enough that he'd feel comfortable there and luckily, as a male, he just has more options than his female classmates.

Most girls and women are capable enough to figure out birth control.

+1 Seriously. I can't get over the number of posters here whose top priority seems to be the availability of abortions.

Availability of emergency healthcare, as pointed out above. The situation described by the poster who is a lawyer and mother of 2 children could have ended very differently in most southern states because of the insane laws passed by people with zero understanding of the female reproductive system.

I refuse to have a child die because she was in the wrong state at the wrong time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Two of the big Florida universities have protests and one has the big Palestinian flag. The guy chanting “kill the Jews “ was a trouble making pro Israel protester looking for trouble and it worked. You can’t trust who’s doing what. If any of the Jewish students are scared they should discuss it with one of the Jewish groups supporting the protests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

What is this Trumpian obsession with beautiful people--how superficial. And not one school in the south is up to par with top schools in the East other than Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice (if you consider Texas, South).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

So, what's the plan when Jewish students find out all the kindly Evangelical zionists saying the south is safe think they're "christ killers," try to convert them or tell them they're damned to hell, and only care about Israel because they want the Jews neatly rounded up for the rapture (and because it's geopolitically convenient for the US to have a dependent state there).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For female students, the South is pretty dangerous. They'd have very little say in their own healthcare - even in the case of a life-threatening emergency.

For males - it's a little easier. However, my son and his cousin had a conversation the other day about how they think they'd have a hard time going to college in a red state. I was proud of them for really thinking it through. My son is being recruited at many schools in red states. The schools are progressive enough that he'd feel comfortable there and luckily, as a male, he just has more options than his female classmates.

Most girls and women are capable enough to figure out birth control.

+1 Seriously. I can't get over the number of posters here whose top priority seems to be the availability of abortions.

My kids don’t want to live in a place that treats people who aren’t white, straight, Christian men like trash.

[Anonymous]

My trans son went to UVA for finance (if you are from NY or CA, this is the South) and my bi daughter went to Auburn for its fashion merch program. Terrific if the kid also wants a true college campus experience (not FIT). She chose it over Cornell because of huge merit and terrific hiring pipeline. Gasp! The original land grant schools offered textile programs, and the fashion programs grew in these non urban locations which is why you might be surprised. They are two of the best.) They both had truly awesome experiences. Not perfect, but awesome. Both left feeling seen and as if they had challenged views from the inside in a positive way.

And my Auburn girl—I sent her with a boatload of morning after pills to share around. With all that merit money, I could afford it.

Seriously people. You can have your cake, eat it too, live your truth and shine a light where some people live in the dark. How do you think living in silo will shift things for the better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

What is this Trumpian obsession with beautiful people--how superficial. And not one school in the south is up to par with top schools in the East other than Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice (if you consider Texas, South).

And as many people on this thread have pointed out, it’s debatable about whether people in the South are more beautiful. It certainly has higher rates of obesity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, 3 kids - all 3 - chose to attend in the south so they are a trend? I know at least 4 in the south who chose to attend in the northeast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My trans son went to UVA for finance (if you are from NY or CA, this is the South) and my bi daughter went to Auburn for its fashion merch program. Terrific if the kid also wants a true college campus experience (not FIT). She chose it over Cornell because of huge merit and terrific hiring pipeline. Gasp! The original land grant schools offered textile programs, and the fashion programs grew in these non urban locations which is why you might be surprised. They are two of the best.) They both had truly awesome experiences. Not perfect, but awesome. Both left feeling seen and as if they had challenged views from the inside in a positive way.

And my Auburn girl—I sent her with a boatload of morning after pills to share around. With all that merit money, I could afford it.

Seriously people. You can have your cake, eat it too, live your truth and shine a light where some people live in the dark. How do you think living in silo will shift things for the better?

Did you also supply DD with one of those “take a number” gizmos like at a butcher shop? Your daughter & her U-Haul full of morning-after pills might be the reason Auburn’s football team has looked a little lethargic in recent years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

What is this Trumpian obsession with beautiful people--how superficial. And not one school in the south is up to par with top schools in the East other than Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice (if you consider Texas, South).

And as many people on this thread have pointed out, it’s debatable about whether people in the South are more beautiful. It certainly has higher rates of obesity.

are southern people more obese when adjusting for race and ses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

What is this Trumpian obsession with beautiful people--how superficial. And not one school in the south is up to par with top schools in the East other than Duke, Vanderbilt, and Rice (if you consider Texas, South).

And as many people on this thread have pointed out, it’s debatable about whether people in the South are more beautiful. It certainly has higher rates of obesity.

are southern people more obese when adjusting for race and ses?

Yes, https://www.nationhoodlab.org/the-regional-geography-of-u-s-life-expectancy/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For female students, the South is pretty dangerous. They'd have very little say in their own healthcare - even in the case of a life-threatening emergency.

For males - it's a little easier. However, my son and his cousin had a conversation the other day about how they think they'd have a hard time going to college in a red state. I was proud of them for really thinking it through. My son is being recruited at many schools in red states. The schools are progressive enough that he'd feel comfortable there and luckily, as a male, he just has more options than his female classmates.

Most girls and women are capable enough to figure out birth control.

+1 Seriously. I can't get over the number of posters here whose top priority seems to be the availability of abortions.

25% of women will get an abortion in their lifetime. They just don’t talk about it. Especially to you. And sometimes those abortions are life saving. If you were a senior citizen with a 25% chance of having a heart attack, would you willingly love somewhere where they would watch you die of an MI when an effective treatment was easily available.

No on thinks they will need an abortion— until they do (“the only justifiable abortion is my abortion”. So yeah— it’s not just a kid unable to come home for an abortion. It’s a kid with a partial miscarriage, ectopic or one of dozens of other pregnancy complications who isn’t stable enough or doesn’t have time to travel.

Also not interested in a state that values my child so little they would stand back and watch her go septic over a pregnancy complication.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Snorts coffee out her nose (ouch hot!). My DH grew up in MTG’s district. I grew up in rural NC. I assure you this is not true. Also not accepted— Msislims, Hindus, agnostics, aethiests. I grew up Catholic and was treated with a health dose of skepticism as “not a real Christian”. Moved to SC for a while and the first question out of every person I Mets mouth was “where is your Church home”?

[Anonymous]

I understand the idea of going to other states and opening people’s minds to opposing viewpoints. My own experience was similar in the 90s. That wasn’t what I planned, but it did work out that way.

But the stakes of these laws being passed now can quite literally be life and death. And we’re not taking that chance in our family. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Two of the big Florida universities have protests and one has the big Palestinian flag. The guy chanting “kill the Jews “ was a trouble making pro Israel protester looking for trouble and it worked. You can’t trust who’s doing what. If any of the Jewish students are scared they should discuss it with one of the Jewish groups supporting the protests.

+1. Texas is having quite a time with pro-Palestinian protestors right now.