Yes, GA is amazing. I didn't mention it since OP was asking about the Main Line. If you're heading north of the city, GA, La Salle (for boys), Mount St. Joseph and Gwynedd Mercy (for girls) are the main private schools. Also Springside Chestnut Hill. |
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Why is this a surprise? Philly is the 6th largest U.S. city. Washington D.C. ranks 20th. |
This has so much false information it's incredible. |
Shipley is gorgeous! |
Don't know enough about all of the DC schools to provide comparisons, but have in some places. Note that there are plenty of stereotypes below and others may have different insights.
Included some Philly schools which are in the city (there are families that commute in both directions -- from city out and from the Main Line in). Note that depending where you live it could actually be faster for your child to commute into a "city" school (in the traditional or expanded sense, like Germantown Friends) versus out to a place like Episcopal. Germantown Friends -- in the Germantown section of Philly, sort-of Northwest of Center City. Decently easy car commute from the Main Line (depending on where you live). Quaker. pk-12, co-ed. A bit like Sidwell in many ways. Friends Select -- in Center City, not far from City Hall (easiest way to describe it to someone not from Philly). Some Penn faculty kids. Quaker. pk-12. The most "city" of the Philly high school privates. Think quirky pretty smart city kids. Probably most like GDS. Friends Central -- k-12, coed, Wynnewood. Some families commute out of the city here. Quaker. A suburban less quirky version of Friends Select. Penn Charter -- in East Falls (neighborhood NW of Center City Philadelphia). Easy commute by car from Main Line, depending where you live. k-12, co-ed. Quaker. Less academic version of Germantown Friends. St. Peter's -- co-ed, preschool to grade 8. in Society Hill (in the city). Old money; originally Episcopalian. Harder commute from ML but depending on where parent working could work. The Philadelphia School -- co-ed, preschool to grade 8. near Fitler Square (in Center City - right across the river from Penn). Very "progressive." Some Penn faculty kids. Baldwin -- all-girls. k-12. in Bryn Mawr, right by the college (of the same name). Think NCS. Uniforms with blazers and lots of school traditions. Haverford -- all-boys. k-12. Right by the college (of the same name) in the town of the same name. Think St. Albans. Shipley -- co-ed, k-12. Right next to Baldwin and across the street from Haverford. Episcopal Academy -- in Newtown Square...I wouldn't call this the Main Line in the traditional definition. Used to be in Merion (which is definitely ML). pk-12, co-ed. More traditional than the pk-12 co-ed schools you'll find in DC probably (maybe if NCS/St. A were one big school?). Will be a drive depending where you live. Agnes Irwin -- all-girls, k-12. Rosemont. A less academic version of Baldwin. Malvern Prep -- independent Catholic, 6-12, boys. in Malvern -- end of the Main Line -- could be a long commute depending where you live. Like Georgetown Prep perhaps? Springside Chestnut Hill Academy -- depends where you live on the ML, could be easy commute or hard commute. pk-8 are single sex, 9-12 are co-ed. In Chestnut Hill/near Mt. Airy section of Philadelphia. on the whole less "brainy" than a place like Germantown Friends. Merion Mercy, Villa Marie, Notre Dame -- Catholic girls' HS. Don't know a ton about them but all on the Main Line. There are also Jewish day schools I have not mentioned. Public HS are also very good, on the whole, depending on where you're living. |
Generally agree with all of this. Small clarification, Shipley isn't across the street from Haverford. Baldwin and Shipley are about 5 minutes from Haverford. But they're both next to Bryn Mawr College. Haverford School is very close to Haverford College. The top schools academically are probably Baldwin, Haverford, GFS, and Episcopal. For comparison, I would agree, Baldwin/Haverford is NCS/STA, Episcopal is like a co-ed NCS/STA or a more traditional version of Sidwell, and Germantown Friends is like a more traditional GDS. It's hard though because I don't think among those four, there is a real Philly version of GDS on one end of the spectrum or a NCS/STA on the other. Baldwin and Haverford are traditional in the sense of uniforms and lots of tradition but they're not super conservative (especially Baldwin). |
When I was growing up in the 90s, Penn Charter was the top private school in Philly. Keep in mind I went to public and didn’t know a single kid in private school. |
PC is still regarded as very strong. I think even then there was no broad consensus it was the single best school, though. The "best" depends a lot on where you live, as the schools draw on such different areas of the city/burbs and their religious affiliations (or degree of emphasis) attract/turn off different families. The sports leagues are a big difference too. IDK, I value academics highly but would send a daughter to AI over Baldwin. I think the pp's comparison is probably sort of right, but none of them are particularly close analogues. |
I know several families at both PC and Germantown, and a few at SCH and various Catholic schools, and I would say PC is still at or near the top. Germantown does have more of a reputation for academics, and that might also be because PC is so focused on sports. I think upper school kids are required to play two sports every year and I’m not sure if there’s a requirement at Germantown. Put it this way, if my neighbors who go to Germantown play sports, I’m not even aware of it, but I’m very aware of the PC neighbors’ kids playing sports. |
Don't forget the excellent public high schools. My friends and I lived in Devon/Berwyn/Paoli and went to Conestoga and then all to the Ivy League, FWIW |
I live in Philly now.
GFS is most like Sidwell but has a very strong liberal trust fund/SJW vibe. Breeding ground for top SLACs, also many Penn faculty and legacy admissions. Quaker. Neighborhood is gentrifying but historically poor, and it is an open campus. It’s safe though. Quaker culture can be stern/inflexible despite very woke liberal culture of the school otherwise. Quirky fact: there is a working cemetery on campus where dead quakers are buried. Episcopal has lost diversity since moving to Villanova and is Episcopalian. There is Chapel. Strong academics. Penn Charter is strong academically and sports-centric. Haverford/Baldwin are SS. Baldwin has a strong culture for girls. Haverford requires a sport per season. Has a new middle school building and great arts facilities. Very into their notion of “what boys need/we know boys.” New headmaster came from STA. These schools are almost across the street from each other. Both require uniforms. Among Jewish schools, Barack Academy seems to do an excellent job and has good college admissions. Agree that Agnes Irwin = Holton Arms. These public school districts are consistently among the top ten-twenty nationally: Treddyfrin-Easttown; Conestoga; Radnor; Lower Merion. A couple of shoutouts to Gladwyne elementary, and Gladwyne Montessori for preschool. Admissions generally are harder than they used to be since COVID but still possible bc the publics are so strong. In terms of professions it’s a lot of doctors and financial services, pharma, educators & academics. Many fewer lawyers which brings a much less status symbol oriented vibe, although if your kids go to private they will have wealthy friends. |
What kind of reputation does Friends Select have nowadays? My uncle went there decades ago |
Friends Select benefits from being the only private ongoing school in the city. I am not that familiar with its current academic reputation but it’s hard to justify choosing it over the schools above in terms of reputation & rigor. It wins on convenience. It’s in a skyscraper so that is unappealing to me although it has a pool and a swim team. |
To clarify, the only one in Center City, in a skyscraper. |
Bradley Cooper went to Germantown Academy in Fort Washington (my cousin was in his class). Several Philly schools have Germantown in their name. I don’t believe GA has any religious affiliation. |