How to get teen son to stop disrespecting the President?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

And i think you're intolerant and a bigot. I thought the same of Obama but didn't run around articulating it. He was president. I gave him his due. Now he's fortunately gone although I wish he would stop talking. I never want to hear his voice again. I'm not a Trump supporter but he is our president and I will show the respect that is his due.

You don’t know what “intolerance” and “bigotry” mean, fool.

You are correct that I won’t tolerate his health care, tax and net neutrality policies, not to mention his foreign policy. But that isn’t “intolerance” or “bigotry.” It is a reaction to the things he says and does, not hatred based on creed, color or national origin. Quit coopting the language or the oppressed by applying it to political disagreement. You are not being persecuted. We don’t hate you or Trump because of who you are, we hate you because of what you say and do. Understand the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP ~ I was raised in a household that respected "the office". My parents taught that regardless of "who" was office, the office needed to be respected. I thought it was classy. I thought my parents were sophisticated. Guess what? when their party was voted out they became very different.

You could credibly insist more people respect the office with Trump in it if he led by example. But his behavior demeans it daily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

OP is about behavior. It's irrelevant if the statements are true or false. It's about delivery. OP didn't provide an example of substantive sayings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

OP is about behavior. It's irrelevant if the statements are true or false. It's about delivery. OP didn't provide an example of substantive sayings.

I suspect OP cares very little about the substance of her son's views as long as they fall into line with OP's.

Kind of like Trump.

[Anonymous]

I have no respect for this idiot president either. Let your son have his own political opinions and beliefs - respect is earned. And that fool in the White House has not earned it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

OP is about behavior. It's irrelevant if the statements are true or false. It's about delivery. OP didn't provide an example of substantive sayings.

I suspect OP cares very little about the substance of her son's views as long as they fall into line with OP's.

Kind of like Trump.

I give OP benefit of the doubt. I think OP is approaching it's wrong by talking about essentially hurt feelings: "DS needs to understand that for some people, Donald Trump is representing their interests, and in fact, that is a majority of our population."
This is no way to win an argument. Lots of unpopular opinions became popular opinions over time. Instead of focusing on offending people, OP can start a conversation about government, laws, voting, supreme court, etc. Lots of adults, not just teenagers, don't realize how unique and amazing our system is, where you don't give all the power to one person in charge and where you personality create and vote on your local laws.
Some people can't take emotion out of it, so OP can teach the kid how, when and why to step back and change the topic. Not all fights are worth fighting for, especially at a dinner table, supposedly food does not taste as good if you are angry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

If everyone was exercising their free speech at family gatherings it would make for lots of very unpleasant evenings. Not the holidays people want to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

At the dinner table? Don't you know the old etiquette rule of the three things never to discuss at the dinner table or polite company: politics, money and religion. Raise your children not to discuss any of these. It's all the more true now on campus. My kids are conservatives and we have suggested that they never talk about politics anywhere on campus, because next thing you know you will be hauled up before a campus committee or later in life reported to HR (another ongoing thread). Parents should be teaching their children moderation and decorum in publc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to tell your son that he is in danger of offending strangers and those he might not want to offend IRL DCUM is not representative of what is happening in our nation right now. He needs to learn to keep his opinions to himself and shut up if he is going to succeed at school and at college.

The vast majority of Americans feel like OP's son he will do just fine in college and school.

Yes, all we need are more entitled snowflakes throwing tantrums about democratically elected politicians and calling those who voted for him, "idiots." Oh, and also protesting (often violently) whenever their school invites a speaker with whom they disagree. "Freedom of speech!! As long as I agree with it."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

And i think you're intolerant and a bigot. I thought the same of Obama but didn't run around articulating it. He was president. I gave him his due. Now he's fortunately gone although I wish he would stop talking. I never want to hear his voice again. I'm not a Trump supporter but he is our president and I will show the respect that is his due.

I don't think you know what these words mean.

DP. I think you know what these words mean all too well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

If you were at my dinner table and said that about the president, I'd escort you out. What a stupid thing to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is this trolling?

It's disrespectful and very bad manners to be saying things like, 'why would anyone vote for an idiot like Trump' at Thanksgiving dinner in front of my sister and BIL who supported Trump in the election (and he knows it).

Trump is the President, I may not agree with him but he was democratically elected so it isn't any better to be disrespecting Trump then the people calling Obama a Kenyan Muslim.

DS needs to understand that for some people, Donald Trump is representing their interests, and in fact, that is a majority of our population.

Hey, it's a valid question he asked of your sister. Respect is earned. Trump should work on earning some

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

OP is about behavior. It's irrelevant if the statements are true or false. It's about delivery. OP didn't provide an example of substantive sayings.

I suspect OP cares very little about the substance of her son's views as long as they fall into line with OP's.

Kind of like Trump.

Or kind of like the liberals over on another thread who were saying how ashamed and disappointed they'd be if their kids grew up to be conservatives. And that they would cease to "like" them anymore. Lovely examples of great parenting.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/684174.page