| Ouch for Berkeley. I had no clue that Emory was ranked so high! |
Sources please. This is false. Maybe true for Duke, not for UVA, a state school. 93.4% of UVA's class is in the top 10% of their graduating classes, have ACTs 331-34 and GPA of 4.26 or better. And how that equates to wealth? ACtually, UVA's incoming class of 2021 had the largest number of financially challenged students ever, and the largest number of minorities ever. Remember UVA shies away from taking students from the northern part of the state. Most of Virginia is quite poor. I have a student there. He doesn't have a car and probably never will on his parent's dime. He lives in a dorm of four. He has URM classmates. He struggles to get by financially. He doesn't do the greek scene. He's fiscally responsible and he adores UVA. He doesn't know a single "rich kid" student. Please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about. |
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I think the wealth disparity is more evident at UVA than other major state flagships like UMich and Cal. That is not to say that those schools have wealth disparities. There is a southern planter-y air at UVA which contrasts o the feel of Michigan, Cal and UCLA.
All that said, can Michigan leverage UMich to jump start its economy? |
I meant to say that those schools have wealth disparities, but it does not play out like UVA. I grew up in NE. A lot of prep school kids went there whereas the others had more socio-economic diversity. |
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UVA as a state flagship cannot by definition be inundated with wealthy kids. Admission is strictly merit, as you know, with the very rare exception of a mommy or daddy who gives $1M. You must have the test scores to get in and a string of impressive accomplishments. Here is President Teresa Sullivan's remarks at convocation for the class of 2021. Thirty eight percent of the students are participating in the University’s AccessUVA financial-aid program and 570 are the first in their families to go to college. Please don't comment when you don't know anything about the school.
You made identical comments in another thread about wealthy students at UVA. I will now go post this over there. If necessary, I'll ask Jeff to ban you. It's irresponsible of you to make claims without substantiation and hurt the reputation of a fine institution trying to reach out to internationsl students, (73 countries); students of color; students of no means (my kid); students from all the other states. https://news.virginia.edu/content/messages-unity-encouragement-greet-class-2021-convocation |
No. Michigan is dependent on a highly cyclical, mature industry that is consolidating. |
This entry gets today's award for least-self-observant poster. "Twenty or thirty years ago mummy and daddy had so much money that I got to attend Phillips Exeter (which is now $61K a year). Some of those prep school students went to UVA. Ergo, UVA is for the wealthy". Unbelievable. Ever think that maybe those kids were on scholarship? or had the scores to attend? |
UVA has more rich kids than Berkeley or Michigan. |
Emory didn't seem to be lacking funding to me, when we visited last year. It has a $6.5 billion endowment, not the size of Princeton's or Harvard's but definitely one of the larger endowments in the country. |
Not true. Look at the stats for financial aid students and first family member to ever attend college. Source please. |
Source please? Since I have a kid there, I'm dying to know where this "rich kids" are. UVA as a state flagship cannot by definition be inundated with wealthy kids. Admission is strictly merit, as you know, with the very rare exception of a mommy or daddy who gives $1M. You must have the test scores to get in and a string of impressive accomplishments. Here is President Teresa Sullivan's remarks at convocation for the class of 2021. Thirty eight percent of the students are participating in the University’s AccessUVA financial-aid program and 570 are the first in their families to go to college. Please don't comment when you don't know anything about the school. It's irresponsible of you to make claims without substantiation and hurt the reputation of a fine institution trying to reach out to international students, (73 countries); students of color; students of no means (my kid); students from all the other states, URMs, the financially needy, and the first-generation kids. https://news.virginia.edu/content/messages-unity-e...t-greet-class-2021-convocation |
School Percent of undergraduates receiving Pell Grants University of California--Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA 37% University of California--Berkeley Berkeley, CA 33% Columbia University New York, NY 32% Emory University Atlanta, GA 23% University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 23% Harvard University Cambridge, MA 18% Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA 17% Brown University Providence, RI 16% Cornell University Ithaca, NY 16% University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 16% Northwestern University Evanston, IL 15% Princeton University Princeton, NJ 15% Rice University Houston, TX 15% Stanford University Stanford, CA 15% Dartmouth College Hanover, NH 14% Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 14% Yale University New Haven, CT 14% California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA 13% Duke University Durham, NC 13% Georgetown University Washington, DC 12% Johns Hopkins University Baltimore, MD 12% University of Chicago Chicago, IL 11% University of Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN 10% Washington University in St. Louis St. Louis, MO 9% https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/economic-diversity-among-top-ranked-schools |
+1 yep |