Um, no - unlike the right wingers' deadbeat rancher hero Cliven Bundy they are honest ranchers who actually pay their grazing fees. |
Um, yes. Read a thing. |
Yes, I love how the American Petroleum Institute, which in the 2012 campaign ran commercials that basically criticized Obama and supported Romney, quickly pivoted to commercials extolling the ingenuity and success of the American oil and gas industry. Same commercial actors, even. |
The way to move it forward is via a grand bargain, that also contains benefits for the environment. By that, I don't mean that Obama should simply bargain approval of Keystone for an unrelated priority. He should use it to move his agenda forward, of course, but there also should be some offsetting environmental benefit. What about a special fee or surcharge on oil moved through the Keystone pipeline that is earmarked for land acquisition to expand national parks and wilderness areas, for example? |
Because all those national parks and wilderness areas, plus all the farmland in middle America, are up shit's creek when a pipline accident dumps tar sands into the Oglala Aquifer. |
Oh, yes, much better to put it on barges in the rivers or on trains........ |
The only reason it's crossing our country in the first place is so that an oil company can refine it to sell to other countries. Seems like we are taking on environmental hazards for someone else's energy needs. |
Well, yes, it is better. Do you know what an aquifer is? |
Please stop with this woe as me attitude that we always hide behind. We're the shining knight, the Kevin Costner, to the world's energy needs. Really? It's bc we want $$$. It ain't out of the goodness of our hearts. Understand that before you comment on anything. |
You seem to have missed my point entirely. It is an unflattering combination to be so slow on the uptake but so quick with the insult. |
The Keystone Pipeline appears to be coming to an end. Not with a bang (phew!) but with a whimper.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/03/us/politics/transcanada-suspends-request-for-permit-to-build-keystone-pipeline.html?_r=0 |
Bout freaking time. Bullet dodged. |
There was already an approved right-of-way with an existing pipeline that would have served their needs. It was only ever about literally cutting corners - and yes, there were legitimate environmental grounds, none of it "silly" as the "corner cutting" would go directly through sensitive areas and put the Oglala Aquifer at risk of groundwater contamination if there were ever to be a leak. And, even in just the few years that Keystone XL has been debated, there have been numerous pipeline spills and disasters, which cost many millions of dollars of damage and cleanup costs. |