Teachers- How much do you get paid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.

The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.

Teachers work about 10 months, not 9. They go back to school before students and stay after students have left. And they are not paid in the summer, unless their salary is stretched over 12 months (making each pay period less money but the same yearly total). I believe your math was ripped to shreds on another thread already, as was your misunderstandings about teaching, teacher benefits, etc.

Nonetheless, teachers do not work the full 12 months. Some of us work 12 months with 2 weeks of vacation time. Even if you work 10 months, you have the option of working those additional 9 weeks. You have the option of taking work such as summer camp, special ed, summer school, and other programs that will earn you additional income. Or even work outside of education. Most of us have our salary and the only way to make additional income is to work evenings or weekends. So, if you opt to do continuing ed or other programs that train you, that is your choice. However, you do have the choice to take another job for 9-10 weeks and earn income on top of your teacher salary. While the 12/10 factor may not be accurate since your interim job probably does not pay as much as your regular salary, your salary is still only a portion of your earning potential as a teacher. That is the point.

[Anonymous]

I'm a lawyer and work my tail off and don't make much more. Yet not one feels sorry for us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.

The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.

Where do people come up with nine months? Around here teachers work through most of June and go back in September which leaves July and August when most teachers I know are taking continuing ed classes or material for the next year.

So true. I am out of my classroom around June 20 and back in around Aug 10. School in the District doesn't start after labor day. It usually starts around Aug 25. I work at camp in the summer. Take about three weeks off in July to be with my family at our lake cottage in upstate NY to rest and regain my sanity so I can start all over again. I teach Pre-K. It is physically and emotionally tiring, but I pretty much love it. Can't imagine being in a desk job.

I have tons of respect for teachers and think they are underpaid, undervalued etc but you know 3 weeks of straight vacation isn't possible in most other jobs, right? What an incredible perk!

Yes, I realize that. On the other hand, I make $46K a year and have an M.A. I'm not complaining; I love my work. But there are some weeks that I eat a PB and J sandwich and drink tap water for lunch every day. Right now I have $150 in my checking account until next Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.

The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.

Teachers work about 10 months, not 9. They go back to school before students and stay after students have left. And they are not paid in the summer, unless their salary is stretched over 12 months (making each pay period less money but the same yearly total). I believe your math was ripped to shreds on another thread already, as was your misunderstandings about teaching, teacher benefits, etc.

Nonetheless, teachers do not work the full 12 months. Some of us work 12 months with 2 weeks of vacation time. Even if you work 10 months, you have the option of working those additional 9 weeks. You have the option of taking work such as summer camp, special ed, summer school, and other programs that will earn you additional income. Or even work outside of education. Most of us have our salary and the only way to make additional income is to work evenings or weekends. So, if you opt to do continuing ed or other programs that train you, that is your choice. However, you do have the choice to take another job for 9-10 weeks and earn income on top of your teacher salary. While the 12/10 factor may not be accurate since your interim job probably does not pay as much as your regular salary, your salary is still only a portion of your earning potential as a teacher. That is the point.

I want to add that I don't believe that this means that teachers are overpaid by any means...I think they are grossly underpaid. I just wanted to point out that the salary is only for a part of the year and that a teacher has the option to work additional job(s) during whatever interim period you have to earn additional income. An option that is not comparable to most full-time employment.

[Anonymous]

This is actually a lot higher than I thought teachers got. If you start out on the Hill, you get like 20K-30K, regardless of whether you have a Master's, (sometimes) JD, or (sometimes) PhD. Seriously. It's supply and demand, just like it is with teachers. Like it or not, a lot of people WANT to be teachers, regardless of the salary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.

The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.

Where do people come up with nine months? Around here teachers work through most of June and go back in September which leaves July and August when most teachers I know are taking continuing ed classes or material for the next year.

So true. I am out of my classroom around June 20 and back in around Aug 10. School in the District doesn't start after labor day. It usually starts around Aug 25. I work at camp in the summer. Take about three weeks off in July to be with my family at our lake cottage in upstate NY to rest and regain my sanity so I can start all over again. I teach Pre-K. It is physically and emotionally tiring, but I pretty much love it. Can't imagine being in a desk job.

I have tons of respect for teachers and think they are underpaid, undervalued etc but you know 3 weeks of straight vacation isn't possible in most other jobs, right? What an incredible perk!

I'm a lawyer, work in-house, took three weeks off last summer. We get 31 days of PTO.

[Anonymous]

^^^PP here, three weeks in a row that is.

[Anonymous]

These teachers are actually paid a decent salary. The cost of living is just too high and as such, most of you non-teachers are grossly overpaid. Its the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is unbelievable sad for me to read. I mean, seriously?

Only a 10k difference between someone without a degree and someone with a Masters........WOW

No study has shown that a teacher with a master's degree is in any way better than one without. So why should they even be paid that much more? (Good teachers should be paid well, better than they are, but their salaries shouldn't be based on years of experience or if they have a master's degre.)

So how would you judge them as "good" ? Test scores? What about early childhood teachers? Standardized testing (NCLB mandate) doesn't start until third grade.

Give us your thoughts.

Sure - student achievement (growth, not just cut-offs like NCLB), observations by leadership, peer reviews/observations, portfolio evaluations, additional responsibilities taken on (career ladder). There are many ways to evaluate teacher performance. They all have their own issues (e.g., testing issues you mentioned, resources/time for peer reviews, etc.). But nothing shows that a master's makes a better teacher. Seems to me that schools should focus on trying to figure out how to evaluate teachers better, rather than throwing money at teachers for getting a master's when they know it doesn't make any difference for students. It just costs taxpayers thousands more for the same quality of teacher; sometimes it's a great teacher and sometimes it's not, but that has nothing to do with whether they have a graduate degree.

[Anonymous]

Nanny here. I've considered going back to school to become a teacher. Teachers don't make much more than I do, some less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.

The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.

Teachers work about 10 months, not 9. They go back to school before students and stay after students have left. And they are not paid in the summer, unless their salary is stretched over 12 months (making each pay period less money but the same yearly total). I believe your math was ripped to shreds on another thread already, as was your misunderstandings about teaching, teacher benefits, etc.

Nonetheless, teachers do not work the full 12 months. Some of us work 12 months with 2 weeks of vacation time. Even if you work 10 months, you have the option of working those additional 9 weeks. You have the option of taking work such as summer camp, special ed, summer school, and other programs that will earn you additional income. Or even work outside of education. Most of us have our salary and the only way to make additional income is to work evenings or weekends. So, if you opt to do continuing ed or other programs that train you, that is your choice. However, you do have the choice to take another job for 9-10 weeks and earn income on top of your teacher salary. While the 12/10 factor may not be accurate since your interim job probably does not pay as much as your regular salary, your salary is still only a portion of your earning potential as a teacher. That is the point.

Very few professionals work twelve months. PP lawyer here w/31 days of PTO, that's six weeks off. I have never had only two weeks of paid time off in any professional job I've ever worked (and I'm 51yo and went to law school after working for years).

Moreover, while teachers have the option to take another job for 9 or 10 weeks, whatever job you can get for that filler-time doesn't pay much. Summer camp, summer school - piddly pay. That's a fact.

And if you did work all those other weeks, that would leave you with little vacation to replenish your reserves.

[Anonymous]

Umm... Non teachers, have you any idea how many hours teachers actually work? I am not a teacher but I have done after school programs. It's not for the weak or the meek I can tell you. Teachers basically have to compensate for your shortcomings as parents. I <3 teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a lawyer and work my tail off and don't make much more. Yet not one feels sorry for us.

Unless you claim you can't pee during your 8-hour day, I really can't say I feel sorry for you.

must be nice to complete paperwork or make a few calls while you sit at your desk - uninterrupted - drinking your cup of coffee

You're pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a lawyer and work my tail off and don't make much more. Yet not one feels sorry for us.

Unless you claim you can't pee during your 8-hour day, I really can't say I feel sorry for you.

must be nice to complete paperwork or make a few calls while you sit at your desk - uninterrupted - drinking your cup of coffee

You're pathetic.

+1

[Anonymous]

Did anyone twist your arms or hold a gun to your heads to make you become teachers? First person to raise your hand, let me know.