UVa 2030 strategic plan - realistic and achievable?

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Anonymous wrote:You know the US News ranking methodology changed, right? When the schools were judged on a different scale every year, you shouldn't compare one year to another.

THIS. OP is horribly ignorant. UVA was no 2 public is USNWR eight years ago. The only reason it slid was because USNWR changed its methodology to put more emphasis on number of pell grant recipients. anyone on college admissions can tell you that a public university cant control that. Pell grant eligibility is determined after acceptance. So
long as Virginians, as a whole, are wealthier than Californians, UVA will have fewer pell grant recipients. Thus, when USNWR did this, UVA dropped. no big deal. And before you say UVA should do more to service the poor, it has, with a number of outreach prigrams, and is one of the few publics to participate in Questbridge. So, as long as USNWr continues in this path, the Virginia schools will
be "punished" in the ratings because Virginia a better managed stated. Go figure. Everyone in high ed knows this. OP is either ignorant or a VTech (UVA rival) or MD boister or yet another parent fried because their kid didn't get into UVA so take it out here. Ignore and move on

Nice rant. UVA is now #5. Eight years ago they were #2 and eight years from now they will drop even more.

Nice rant back. You are an idiot. What the PP says is the truth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know the US News ranking methodology changed, right? When the schools were judged on a different scale every year, you shouldn't compare one year to another.

THIS. OP is horribly ignorant. UVA was no 2 public is USNWR eight years ago. The only reason it slid was because USNWR changed its methodology to put more emphasis on number of pell grant recipients. anyone on college admissions can tell you that a public university cant control that. Pell grant eligibility is determined after acceptance. So
long as Virginians, as a whole, are wealthier than Californians, UVA will have fewer pell grant recipients. Thus, when USNWR did this, UVA dropped. no big deal. And before you say UVA should do more to service the poor, it has, with a number of outreach prigrams, and is one of the few publics to participate in Questbridge. So, as long as USNWr continues in this path, the Virginia schools will
be "punished" in the ratings because Virginia a better managed stated. Go figure. Everyone in high ed knows this. OP is either ignorant or a VTech (UVA rival) or MD boister or yet another parent fried because their kid didn't get into UVA so take it out here. Ignore and move on

Nice rant. UVA is now #5. Eight years ago they were #2 and eight years from now they will drop even more.

Nice rant back. You are an idiot. What the PP says is the truth

A three sentence statement isn’t a rant.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know the US News ranking methodology changed, right? When the schools were judged on a different scale every year, you shouldn't compare one year to another.

THIS. OP is horribly ignorant. UVA was no 2 public is USNWR eight years ago. The only reason it slid was because USNWR changed its methodology to put more emphasis on number of pell grant recipients. anyone on college admissions can tell you that a public university cant control that. Pell grant eligibility is determined after acceptance. So
long as Virginians, as a whole, are wealthier than Californians, UVA will have fewer pell grant recipients. Thus, when USNWR did this, UVA dropped. no big deal. And before you say UVA should do more to service the poor, it has, with a number of outreach prigrams, and is one of the few publics to participate in Questbridge. So, as long as USNWr continues in this path, the Virginia schools will
be "punished" in the ratings because Virginia a better managed stated. Go figure. Everyone in high ed knows this. OP is either ignorant or a VTech (UVA rival) or MD boister or yet another parent fried because their kid didn't get into UVA so take it out here. Ignore and move on

Nice rant. UVA is now #5. Eight years ago they were #2 and eight years from now they will drop even more.

Nice rant back. You are an idiot. What the PP says is the truth

A three sentence statement isn’t a rant.

DP. Actually one word can be a rant. look it up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

Not a dump, but also not sure it is headed in the right direction.

Why? I haven’t been following this but my kid likes UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

Not a dump, but also not sure it is headed in the right direction.

Why? I haven’t been following this but my kid likes UVA.

It’s a great school,nothing to “follow” other than the constant trolls on this board who like to tear it down. Have two kids there and they love it.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

The CS program has never been especially stellar. I went there. It's mostly engineering focused which isn't all that helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

As much as I regret going there because it was weak for CS, it is a lovely campus.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

Not a dump, but also not sure it is headed in the right direction.

Why? I haven’t been following this but my kid likes UVA.

It’s a great school,nothing to “follow” other than the constant trolls on this board who like to tear it down. Have two kids there and they love it.

UVA gets an unreasonable amount of resentment on this forum. Lots of upset parents, angry their kid got rejected "from their state school", and now bitter at it.

UVA is an incredible university. Great undergrad, and top graduate business school and law school.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

As much as I regret going there because it was weak for CS, it is a lovely campus.

I hope their new SDS fixes this broken record of "UVA is weak in CS".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

As much as I regret going there because it was weak for CS, it is a lovely campus.

My kid going for CS - in the engineering school - would you give any advice for a minor or double major for them to explore?

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

"Grounds" not campus.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

Pretty sure both PP’s before you were joking. (My UVA education taught me discern humor.) Congrats to your kid. But please don’t with the “sorry your kid didn’t get in” nonsense. Not a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

Pretty sure both PP’s before you were joking. (My UVA education taught me discern humor.) Congrats to your kid. But please don’t with the “sorry your kid didn’t get in” nonsense. Not a good look. [/quote]

Why do these people keep saying it? It's completely ridiculous and is red meat for the hater side. As a parent of a rising 4th year... please stop, you're an embarrassment to the entire UVA culture and community... and as PP said it's grounds not campus, your kid and you should know this already, especially if you're already throwing embarrassing shade like "sorry you're kid didn't get in." Welcome to Hoo Nation but get your act together.

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago UVa released a strategic plan with the goal of becoming the top public university in the USA and one of the top universities in the world by 2030. In the past years the school has been slipping in rankings and has fallen to the T5 public, and ranked somewhere between 24-27. Very recently the university opened the School of Data Science, which could bump up CS programs.

Do you think UVa can turn around the decline or will it keep falling lower and lower? The grad law school and business school are very highly ranked but the undergrad is not.

I think it'll keep falling lower and lower. Before you know it, no one will want to attend UVA for ANYTHING. I don't know why they are bothering to build the School of Data Science; should have spent the money demolishing some of the existing buildings since pretty soon no one will want to go there. And don't get me started on Charlottesville, what an awful place to attend college. That is why my DCs decided to say no thanks to their UVA offers of admission (honestly, I am not sure why they even bothered to apply - I refused to pay the application fees) and went to Liberty instead.

This is hilarious. Charlottesville…what a dump.

UVa campus is gorgeous and Charlottesville is charming. My kid is thrilled to be attending UVa this fall. Very popular choice at kid’s very large high school. I’m sorry your kid did not get in.

Your post was fine until the end.

When people say that they sound like a petulant middle schooler.