U.S. Fertility Rate Falls to Record Low

[Anonymous]

What was going on in 1979 that Crete slow birth rates back then? Any correlations to 2023?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The global undesirables are breeding like flies (so to speak) and the Western liberals have women who refuse to have children until they’re 42 years old, then talk about nothing but “perimenopause” starting around 47.

What else do you expect?

We live in a useless, sclerotic America. Other than the poor whited and blacks, and the immigrants.

No one is breeding like flies anymore. This is a global phenomenon. Mexico and India are below replacement ratio. Costa Rica and Cile are heading to a TFR of 1. Only in Africa and thd Middle East are ratios still high, and even there they are falling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can always provide better maternal/paternal leave and free childcare and family support services but that's unlikely in current atmosphere.

This all only benefits
-two-income households in which they are not paid by the hours, and they have kids
This all gives them an income boost, causing inflation, that no one else benefits from

What about the single childless gals?
The single mom home health aides who only get paid even they work?
The retiree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What was going on in 1979 that Crete slow birth rates back then? Any correlations to 2023?

Inflation and corruption

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is clearly a testament to efficiency of birth control methods and deficiency of dual income economic model but obviously other factors are involved. Probably number one being no-one wants to bring kids in such a messed up world.

It can't bode well for future of social services net. May be we need paranoid conservatives and their ban on women's rights? Or do we need liberals with open borders?

You people are so stupid.

“Such a messed up world,” why? Because there’s a couple low-level skirmishes underway on the other side of the globe? Not enough quality teachers in public schools? A largely reviled one-term former president under multiple indictments is facing off against a barely coherent dementia patient to lead the free world (that one’s admittedly not great).

We have lives and homes and access to medicine, food, knowledge, entertainment, beyond what kings could have dreamed of for virtually all human history. Torture, rape, and child labor were 100% legal and routine for millennia until about 5 minutes ago in historical terms (and still are in “Palestine” and most other third world hellholes you guys love so much). Ghengis Khan roamed an entire continent skull-f$cking every village he encountered. WWII, all kinds of death and destruction arising from one man’s largely successful effort to exterminate 10s of millions of people. JNCO jeans in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Anyone not having kids because the world today is “messed up” is a navel-gazing idiot and we’re glad to have your weak sauce eliminated from the gene pool.

Well said, and secondly, births are only trending down if you cherry pick the last few years and believe numbers without context.

Um, your chart lacks context and should show birth rates and not total births. In 1909 the population of the US was 90 million, in the 1950s it was 160 million, now it’s 333 million.

Either way, it’s good that people aren’t having as many children. We’re getting better at robots so they can do the work for future generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be awesome if we had mandated insurance coverage for fertility. Then more people that want babies could have them.

If they don't want to pay for their own fertility treatments then how to they expect to be able to afford children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can always provide better maternal/paternal leave and free childcare and family support services but that's unlikely in current atmosphere.

Absolutely not! If I pay for your kids, then you pay for my mortgage.

8 freaking billion people in the world -- we do not need more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The global undesirables are breeding like flies (so to speak) and the Western liberals have women who refuse to have children until they’re 42 years old, then talk about nothing but “perimenopause” starting around 47.

What else do you expect?

We live in a useless, sclerotic America. Other than the poor whited and blacks, and the immigrants.

Global undesirables? Because some humans are less desirable than others? Jesus.

I know, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feel free to call me racist, yes they are the wrong ones to be having kids, they have deep patriarchal society’s still, lower education, lower value about education, in general poor health, eyesight, teeth and l are black holes of need for decades. What they contribute does not offset what they take.

This describes a lot of non-immigrant Americans. Most of the immigrants I know are highly educated and wealthy.

Not in the DCC schools where I work. if this is the future of America, we are doomed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The global undesirables are breeding like flies (so to speak) and the Western liberals have women who refuse to have children until they’re 42 years old, then talk about nothing but “perimenopause” starting around 47.

What else do you expect?

We live in a useless, sclerotic America. Other than the poor whited and blacks, and the immigrants.

No one is breeding like flies anymore. This is a global phenomenon. Mexico and India are below replacement ratio. Costa Rica and Cile are heading to a TFR of 1. Only in Africa and thd Middle East are ratios still high, and even there they are falling.

Africa is still quite high. Why don’t Africans count to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is clearly a testament to efficiency of birth control methods and deficiency of dual income economic model but obviously other factors are involved. Probably number one being no-one wants to bring kids in such a messed up world.

It can't bode well for future of social services net. May be we need paranoid conservatives and their ban on women's rights? Or do we need liberals with open borders?

You people are so stupid.

“Such a messed up world,” why? Because there’s a couple low-level skirmishes underway on the other side of the globe? Not enough quality teachers in public schools? A largely reviled one-term former president under multiple indictments is facing off against a barely coherent dementia patient to lead the free world (that one’s admittedly not great).

We have lives and homes and access to medicine, food, knowledge, entertainment, beyond what kings could have dreamed of for virtually all human history. Torture, rape, and child labor were 100% legal and routine for millennia until about 5 minutes ago in historical terms (and still are in “Palestine” and most other third world hellholes you guys love so much). Ghengis Khan roamed an entire continent skull-f$cking every village he encountered. WWII, all kinds of death and destruction arising from one man’s largely successful effort to exterminate 10s of millions of people. JNCO jeans in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Anyone not having kids because the world today is “messed up” is a navel-gazing idiot and we’re glad to have your weak sauce eliminated from the gene pool.

Well said, and secondly, births are only trending down if you cherry pick the last few years and believe numbers without context.

Um, your chart lacks context and should show birth rates and not total births. In 1909 the population of the US was 90 million, in the 1950s it was 160 million, now it’s 333 million.

Either way, it’s good that people aren’t having as many children. We’re getting better at robots so they can do the work for future generations.

Agreed. The point is births aren't collapsing even with lower rates. That's a good thing because it means population is stabilizing. Not something to refuse to have kids over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What was going on in 1979 that Crete slow birth rates back then? Any correlations to 2023?

We were all poor. Even the middle class. As a Gen X person about their childhood vacations — they are all, well,,we drove about 100 miles away and camped, or stayed with grandma. We all shopped at sears and penny’s and wore hand me downs. We got one outfit as a special back to school outfit or for Easter.. we ate crap food from cans or large cheap cuts of meat, stuff like pot roosts was a treat. Families shared one car. My dad had a good job but endeing up buying a moped to get to work because we couldn’t afford another car and ours was broken half the time. I had never met anyone who had been to Europe or on a cruise or even to California unless they did it for work. Everything was just so expensive and everyone’s dad was constantly yelling about turning off the lights because he didn’t own the electric company. It constantly amazes me how incredibly rich we all are now in comparison to life in the 70s.

[Anonymous]

Interesting it coincides with less people going to happy hours, clubs, discos.

I spend the 1980s trying not to get a girl pregnant. Today men don’t know how to get a women pregnant.

Men and women are becoming asexual

[Anonymous]

So basically if we could get the birthdate down to 1 kid per couple we’d be back at 1975 population levels which was probably way more supportable. That hardly seems something to tear out hair out about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be awesome if we had mandated insurance coverage for fertility. Then more people that want babies could have them.

If they don't want to pay for their own fertility treatments then how to they expect to be able to afford children?

These two are not the same. You can easily spend 3x on fertility treatments compared to daycare. Easily.