Non-Tesla EV?

[Anonymous]

If you're open to a sports sedan, the market for used Audi eTron GT has completely collapsed.

The 2024 eTron GT starts at $104K. However, you can get a 2022 model with only 10K miles for $54K.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Audi-e-tron-GT-d3115#listing=383897294/NONE/DEFAULT

The 2024 RS eTron GT starts at an eye watering $147K. But you can pick up a 2022 model in Silver Spring with only 8600 miles for $76K.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?zip=20007&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&sortDir=ASC&sourceContext=untrackedExternal_false_0&distance=100&sortType=BEST_MATCH&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d3126#listing=371961441/NONE/DEFAULT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, we did this search as well.
Wound up with a Tesla Y. So have no advice for you.

All roads lead to Tesla.

The Model Y really blew me away when it came out four years ago but its styling and features are starting to look old/stale compared to other brands.
The key feature you want is access to the supercharger network.

Any news on when they are going to have something fresh?

This key feature is being rolled out to virtually every EV; Fords and Rivians already have it, and others are adding very soon.

[Anonymous]

Get a 2025 Mach-E. My understanding is that they will support the Tesla supercharger network. Other chargers only seem to be working 50% of the time when you find them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dollar for dollar, you can't beat a Model Y. Not even close.

Why are you looking for a non-Tesla?

Hmmm what could ever be the reason

[Anonymous]

Tesla w/FSD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a 2025 Mach-E. My understanding is that they will support the Tesla supercharger network. Other chargers only seem to be working 50% of the time when you find them.

Just about every other manufacturer has signed a deal for their cars to get access to the Tesla network in the next year or two, there’s almost no reason to worry about this anymore. If you have home charging, especially, you’ll be fine. We take our non-Tesla EV on multiple long road trips every year; it takes a bit of advance planning, but as new chargers get built out, that gets easier and easier. And VW, which makes our car, is one of the last Tesla rivals to sign with the Supercharger network, but they’ll still have access by sometime in 2025.

[Anonymous]

New rivian is supposed to be under $45k

[Anonymous]

Buy a used EV or even better get a lease on a non-Tesla. The depreciation on new EVs without the NACS charging port ( formerly called Tesla charging port) will be large. Also new batteries are coming from the Chinese company CATL allowing DC fast charging of 370 miles in ten minutes. The next generation of EVs will cause massive depreciation of this generation of EV vehicles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New rivian is supposed to be under $45k

Not until 2026

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Buy a used EV or even better get a lease on a non-Tesla. The depreciation on new EVs without the NACS charging port ( formerly called Tesla charging port) will be large. Also new batteries are coming from the Chinese company CATL allowing DC fast charging of 370 miles in ten minutes. The next generation of EVs will cause massive depreciation of this generation of EV vehicles.

I got a great deal on a Volvo EV lease--the range is less than I would want for a 10 year car, but for 3 years it's fine. I figure the technology will be way better in 3 years and will have tons of options at that time. Our first lease ever, though anticipate buying again in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a 2025 Mach-E. My understanding is that they will support the Tesla supercharger network. Other chargers only seem to be working 50% of the time when you find them.

Just about every other manufacturer has signed a deal for their cars to get access to the Tesla network in the next year or two, there’s almost no reason to worry about this anymore. If you have home charging, especially, you’ll be fine. We take our non-Tesla EV on multiple long road trips every year; it takes a bit of advance planning, but as new chargers get built out, that gets easier and easier. And VW, which makes our car, is one of the last Tesla rivals to sign with the Supercharger network, but they’ll still have access by sometime in 2025.

can you use all superchargers or just some?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a 2025 Mach-E. My understanding is that they will support the Tesla supercharger network. Other chargers only seem to be working 50% of the time when you find them.

Just about every other manufacturer has signed a deal for their cars to get access to the Tesla network in the next year or two, there’s almost no reason to worry about this anymore. If you have home charging, especially, you’ll be fine. We take our non-Tesla EV on multiple long road trips every year; it takes a bit of advance planning, but as new chargers get built out, that gets easier and easier. And VW, which makes our car, is one of the last Tesla rivals to sign with the Supercharger network, but they’ll still have access by sometime in 2025.

can you use all superchargers or just some?

It'll be all once they join the network. Right now, Fords and Rivians can use any Supercharger (they need an adapter that I think the manufacturers are providing or selling). VWs and others can only use the small number of stations that have the "magic dock" cable to connect to non-Tesla cars.

[Anonymous]

I love my VW ID.4. We chose to lease (I've never leased a car before) because the EVs really lose their value quickly. Plus the technology is changing so fast, I wanted to be able to upgrade after a few years.

[Anonymous]

It’s not full EV but I love my plug in hybrid Toyota RAV. For all my local driving, it’s full EV enough.