Decision time - Johns Hopins vs Amherst college

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im confused by your post. Are you working on the assumption Hopkins is perceived to be a better school than Amherst? That's not the case. If kid prefers Amherst, go to Amherst. Arguably Amherst is more prestigious. Are you from another country?


You must be joking. Hopkins is a top 10 national university while Amherst is just a LAC.


Thanks, "just a LAC" poster. You sound super-duper smart and super-duper knowledgeable about all things, with your broad dismissal of a group of schools that are a gem of the American educational system.

Amherst isn't even among my favorite liberal arts colleges, but I would have much preferred it for undergrad for myself (and for my kids) over Johns Hopkins.
Anonymous
Let your DD decide.

She has obviously worked hard to have these options.

Show her that you have faith in her ability to make good decisions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im confused by your post. Are you working on the assumption Hopkins is perceived to be a better school than Amherst? That's not the case. If kid prefers Amherst, go to Amherst. Arguably Amherst is more prestigious. Are you from another country?


You must be joking. Hopkins is a top 10 national university while Amherst is just a LAC.


Thanks, "just a LAC" poster. You sound super-duper smart and super-duper knowledgeable about all things, with your broad dismissal of a group of schools that are a gem of the American educational system.

Amherst isn't even among my favorite liberal arts colleges, but I would have much preferred it for undergrad for myself (and for my kids) over Johns Hopkins.


I should add, for OP, that a top liberal arts college like Amherst is very highly regarded by the grad schools or employers that might be looking at your DD's application. Either would be an excellent stepping stone, so you should rest easy. Let your DD decide based on where she would like to spend the next four years of her life.
Anonymous
Amherst campus is probably safer. New student center and dining hall opening this year. That combined with open curriculum would make me vote for Amherst
Anonymous
Your DC will get an excellent education in both places. For your kid, JHU may have an edge w SAIS, but your DC could always enroll there fof grad school. For most careers in this area, a grad degree is a must anyway.

Having DC close by is a bit o fan advantage.

See what feels best to you. Two fine schools. Being happy is important.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im confused by your post. Are you working on the assumption Hopkins is perceived to be a better school than Amherst? That's not the case. If kid prefers Amherst, go to Amherst. Arguably Amherst is more prestigious. Are you from another country?


You must be joking. Hopkins is a top 10 national university while Amherst is just a LAC.


Thanks, "just a LAC" poster. You sound super-duper smart and super-duper knowledgeable about all things, with your broad dismissal of a group of schools that are a gem of the American educational system.

Amherst isn't even among my favorite liberal arts colleges, but I would have much preferred it for undergrad for myself (and for my kids) over Johns Hopkins.


The coddling at these admission events says enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

You must be joking. Hopkins is a top 10 national university while Amherst is just a LAC.


Ignore this person. No such thing as "just a liberal arts college" and Amherst is one of the best. For undergrad in your daughter's shoes I would choose Amherst without hesitation. She will be set up to do whatever she wants for grad school/career. No shade on Hopkins, but I would not turn down Amherst.
Anonymous
Do you think the admissions events show desperation or something?

I am 100% positive that Amherst isn't suffering for kids who want to attend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im confused by your post. Are you working on the assumption Hopkins is perceived to be a better school than Amherst? That's not the case. If kid prefers Amherst, go to Amherst. Arguably Amherst is more prestigious. Are you from another country?


You must be joking. Hopkins is a top 10 national university while Amherst is just a LAC.


Thanks, "just a LAC" poster. You sound super-duper smart and super-duper knowledgeable about all things, with your broad dismissal of a group of schools that are a gem of the American educational system.

Amherst isn't even among my favorite liberal arts colleges, but I would have much preferred it for undergrad for myself (and for my kids) over Johns Hopkins.


The coddling at these admission events says enough.


So meals and career planning is coddling? Got it. I bet you're a charmer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Your DC will get an excellent education in both places. For your kid, JHU may have an edge w SAIS, but your DC could always enroll there fof grad school. For most careers in this area, a grad degree is a must anyway.

Having DC close by is a bit o fan advantage.

See what feels best to you. Two fine schools. Being happy is important.


+1 I'd be inclined to do Amherst for undergrad and JHU grad school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DD visited both schools, all had better feeling than before.

But, A was much better than J this time, Admission dean and president both came out greeting students, was treated nice breakfast and lunch, had dorm tour and sit in class, plus other sessions, like career planing, etc. It's a full day event, it shows Amherst really caring about students.

While Johns Hopkins, only admission officer, not even dean, came out to meet us, just some refreshment, nothing else, current student lead a campus tour, no dorm visit, that's it, last less than 2 hours. Campus and surrounding area are fine, safety is not an issue, which we worried about before.

DD is going to study political science, J has much recognized name, and there is an excellent international relation major, even DD like small college, but, for her career or graduate school, would J be a better step stone?


With Amherst undergrad, your student can go anywhere for grad, including JHU.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD visited both schools, all had better feeling than before.

But, A was much better than J this time, Admission dean and president both came out greeting students, was treated nice breakfast and lunch, had dorm tour and sit in class, plus other sessions, like career planing, etc. It's a full day event, it shows Amherst really caring about students.

While Johns Hopkins, only admission officer, not even dean, came out to meet us, just some refreshment, nothing else, current student lead a campus tour, no dorm visit, that's it, last less than 2 hours. Campus and surrounding area are fine, safety is not an issue, which we worried about before.

DD is going to study political science, J has much recognized name, and there is an excellent international relation major, even DD like small college, but, for her career or graduate school, would J be a better step stone?


With Amherst undergrad, your student can go anywhere for grad, including JHU.


Nope. Graduate school admissions are competitive. They can only go to the programs that offer acceptance. Do you have any idea how competitive JHU is for grad school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They're both outstanding schools. I personally prefer smaller LACs for the quality of UG education. I'm a grad alum of Hopkins and always felt sorry for the lack of attention profs paid to UGs, but perhaps that has improved.


Thank you Amherst admissions officer.



Nope, Hopkins grad alum whose high stats kids will not be applying. But will consider for grad school when the times comes.


New poster, worked in the counseling center at jhu decades ago. The lack of attention to students from faculty was a well known lament of many students as well as the common, "I could have gone to a school just as good that felt better and was warmer." Also, the quote from my clinical supervisor, a clinical psychologist. "Hopkins looks best the further away you get from it." Hopkins has also had numerous ethical violations around data collection for years. Let's not idealize Hopkins. (They do that very well themselves). I vote Amherst.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD visited both schools, all had better feeling than before.

But, A was much better than J this time, Admission dean and president both came out greeting students, was treated nice breakfast and lunch, had dorm tour and sit in class, plus other sessions, like career planing, etc. It's a full day event, it shows Amherst really caring about students.

While Johns Hopkins, only admission officer, not even dean, came out to meet us, just some refreshment, nothing else, current student lead a campus tour, no dorm visit, that's it, last less than 2 hours. Campus and surrounding area are fine, safety is not an issue, which we worried about before.

DD is going to study political science, J has much recognized name, and there is an excellent international relation major, even DD like small college, but, for her career or graduate school, would J be a better step stone?


With Amherst undergrad, your student can go anywhere for grad, including JHU.


Nope. Graduate school admissions are competitive. They can only go to the programs that offer acceptance. Do you have any idea how competitive JHU is for grad school?


It likely varies based on the program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They're both outstanding schools. I personally prefer smaller LACs for the quality of UG education. I'm a grad alum of Hopkins and always felt sorry for the lack of attention profs paid to UGs, but perhaps that has improved.


Thank you Amherst admissions officer.



Nope, Hopkins grad alum whose high stats kids will not be applying. But will consider for grad school when the times comes.


New poster, worked in the counseling center at jhu decades ago. The lack of attention to students from faculty was a well known lament of many students as well as the common, "I could have gone to a school just as good that felt better and was warmer." Also, the quote from my clinical supervisor, a clinical psychologist. "Hopkins looks best the further away you get from it." Hopkins has also had numerous ethical violations around data collection for years. Let's not idealize Hopkins. (They do that very well themselves). I vote Amherst.

Actual Hopkins alum here. I had a great experience. Not sure what the point of the mush mash above is but clearly someone with an axe to grind. Same with the “grad” student poster who jumps on every Hopkins thread to badmouth it.
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