Where Can My Above-Average STA Son Expect To Get Into College?

[Anonymous]

STA college counseling has "the book" that they let Senior parents review once they start the individual one-on-one portion of the counseling process. This book, which is relatively new, contains the GPA, SAT/ACT, application round, and result of the last 3 years of students (anonymously). So if your kid is a 92 GPA and a 1450 SAT you can go into the book for say UChicago and see how other 92/1450 kids fared in the application process over the last three years.

There are outliers of course (legacy, athletes, etc) that can throw a few curve balls into the numbers, but you'll start to get some general ideas of what schools are within range of your kid.

[Anonymous]

This thread illustrates well why everyone should take an elementary statistics course.

I assume OP meant 6th (rather than 4th) decile, which is consistent with the “above average” in the title. In other words, her son is in the top 40 percent of the class.

Based on how similarly placed students at my DC’s independent school do, I would assume that places like WashU, Tulane, BC, Carleton, Hamilton, Wesleyan would be reasonable targets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is in the 4th decile at St. Albans. He has no legacy or hooks. Where can he expect to gain admission to college? Does he have a shot at a T20?

Op what is his GPA? 4th decile means nothing. Are you even an actual STA parent? No one speaks about 4th decile. STA uses a 100 point scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

Ugh. This back and forth about deciles is tiresome. In any case, OP is decidedly not an STA parent as there is no such statistic at the school and a true STA parent would ask these questions of the CCO—not from randos in a public forum. Obvious troll post. Can we please move on now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread illustrates well why everyone should take an elementary statistics course.

I assume OP meant 6th (rather than 4th) decile, which is consistent with the “above average” in the title. In other words, her son is in the top 40 percent of the class.

Based on how similarly placed students at my DC’s independent school do, I would assume that places like WashU, Tulane, BC, Carleton, Hamilton, Wesleyan would be reasonable targets.

No kids getting into Wesleyan, BC, Hamilton and Wash U are much higher up and closer to being in the top 25 percent.

Many kids below that did not get into Tulane, BC, Hamilton etc...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread illustrates well why everyone should take an elementary statistics course.

I assume OP meant 6th (rather than 4th) decile, which is consistent with the “above average” in the title. In other words, her son is in the top 40 percent of the class.

Based on how similarly placed students at my DC’s independent school do, I would assume that places like WashU, Tulane, BC, Carleton, Hamilton, Wesleyan would be reasonable targets.

No kids getting into Wesleyan, BC, Hamilton and Wash U are much higher up and closer to being in the top 25 percent.

Many kids below that did not get into Tulane, BC, Hamilton etc...

PP here. I mentioned specific schools where the kids close to the middle of my daughter’s school are going next year. Maybe it’s different at your school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread illustrates well why everyone should take an elementary statistics course.

I assume OP meant 6th (rather than 4th) decile, which is consistent with the “above average” in the title. In other words, her son is in the top 40 percent of the class.

Based on how similarly placed students at my DC’s independent school do, I would assume that places like WashU, Tulane, BC, Carleton, Hamilton, Wesleyan would be reasonable targets.

No kids getting into Wesleyan, BC, Hamilton and Wash U are much higher up and closer to being in the top 25 percent.

Many kids below that did not get into Tulane, BC, Hamilton etc...

PP here. I mentioned specific schools where the kids close to the middle of my daughter’s school are going next year. Maybe it’s different at your school?

That information is not even available online yet for class of 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread illustrates well why everyone should take an elementary statistics course.

I assume OP meant 6th (rather than 4th) decile, which is consistent with the “above average” in the title. In other words, her son is in the top 40 percent of the class.

Based on how similarly placed students at my DC’s independent school do, I would assume that places like WashU, Tulane, BC, Carleton, Hamilton, Wesleyan would be reasonable targets.

No kids getting into Wesleyan, BC, Hamilton and Wash U are much higher up and closer to being in the top 25 percent.

Many kids below that did not get into Tulane, BC, Hamilton etc...

PP here. I mentioned specific schools where the kids close to the middle of my daughter’s school are going next year. Maybe it’s different at your school?

p.s. The top 25 percent are headed to Stanford, Harvard, Brown, Princeton, Northwestern, Duke, UPenn, UChicago, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

No, because deciles aren’t from the top down, they are bottom up. Just like quartiles. The first decile is 1-10%. The first quartile is 1-25%. You’ll often hear people say *top* quartile instead, which avoids the confusion of figuring out if the best kids are in the first or fourth quartile (they’re in the fourth).

4th decile is low. 6th decile isn’t the greatest, but it’s fine. But OP probably could have said their kid was in the bottom half of the top half of the class and it might have been less confusing. They should just use an actual percentile and/or gpa next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

Ugh. This back and forth about deciles is tiresome. In any case, OP is decidedly not an STA parent as there is no such statistic at the school and a true STA parent would ask these questions of the CCO—not from randos in a public forum. Obvious troll post. Can we please move on now?

Some of us are data nerds and this part of the thread is the fun part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

No, because deciles aren’t from the top down, they are bottom up. Just like quartiles. The first decile is 1-10%. The first quartile is 1-25%. You’ll often hear people say *top* quartile instead, which avoids the confusion of figuring out if the best kids are in the first or fourth quartile (they’re in the fourth).

4th decile is low. 6th decile isn’t the greatest, but it’s fine. But OP probably could have said their kid was in the bottom half of the top half of the class and it might have been less confusing. They should just use an actual percentile and/or gpa next time.

You didn’t read the title of the thread. My conjecture is that OP doesn’t understand how deciles work and meant to say 6th decile, which is in line with “above average”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

Ugh. This back and forth about deciles is tiresome. In any case, OP is decidedly not an STA parent as there is no such statistic at the school and a true STA parent would ask these questions of the CCO—not from randos in a public forum. Obvious troll post. Can we please move on now?

A true STA parent? lol

Yes, even true STA parents ask the internet because…? What’s going on with the STA CCO that parents can’t get the info they need?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4th decile is a very obnoxious way to describe someone in the 40th percentile of the class. Unhook and GPA is like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.5 my guess? If you are full pay ED wisely and you have a shot at a relatively stronger school that needs to fill fully pay seats.

I’d say the highest he could shoot would be the tufts, wake forest, bates, BC, BU level. Is he going to do standardized tests?

You're interpreting this incorrectly. OP's son is around the 60% percentile.

That would be the 6th decile. Although I’m confident that’s what OP intended; they just tried to sound smart but ended up looking stupid.

Wouldn’t 6th decile mean 60% from the top and 60th percentile would mean 40% from the top?

No, because deciles aren’t from the top down, they are bottom up. Just like quartiles. The first decile is 1-10%. The first quartile is 1-25%. You’ll often hear people say *top* quartile instead, which avoids the confusion of figuring out if the best kids are in the first or fourth quartile (they’re in the fourth).

4th decile is low. 6th decile isn’t the greatest, but it’s fine. But OP probably could have said their kid was in the bottom half of the top half of the class and it might have been less confusing. They should just use an actual percentile and/or gpa next time.

You didn’t read the title of the thread. My conjecture is that OP doesn’t understand how deciles work and meant to say 6th decile, which is in line with “above average”.

No one uses that term decile. Maybe top 10 percent or top 1/4 is used but not decile.

It is obviously a troll considering op never returned to answer questions.