Which first lady is professionally most accomplished

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton?

Yes, not even a question.

+1

Professionally most accomplished and dedicated public servant. Nobody else comes close.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.

So what? Compare that to Melania who does nothing now. Or Laura Bush. Who is lovely and was a great First Lady. But has no really accomplished much in the post-presidential years.

There is no contest. HRC.

You guys arent even addressing the like history of misogyny and early pioneers like roosevelt though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.

Honestly, she might have been elected president had she not had Bill’s baggage.

[Anonymous]

I think it's quite an accomplishment that Jill Biden has continued to teach throughout the Obama and Biden administrations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.

Honestly, she might have been elected president had she not had Bill’s baggage.

But she never would have been nominated for president (or secretary of state, or senator) had she not gained worldwide fame for being Bill's wife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's quite an accomplishment that Jill Biden has continued to teach throughout the Obama and Biden administrations.

I can't stand her husband and son, but damn I like this. Agree.

[Anonymous]

Hilary obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton?

I mean, yes, but her accomplishments are mostly linked to her celebrity from having been first lady.

Definitely true, but DCUM posters are damp over Yale Law School + the marrying well + her constant self promotion.

Jackie O was definitely the most accomplished. Well bred, nothing to prove, married well twice, impeccable taste in clothing and interior design, attentive mother, supportive wife.

If you’re going by the Caroline Bingley school of accomplishments rules perhaps.

[Anonymous]

Eleanor Roosevelt. No question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Hillary Clinton has been a Senator and Secretary of State. And a presidential nominee? It's not even close.

It may be possible that Michelle Obama gave up the highest salary to become first lady, and maybe wins the "most accomplished at the time of becoming first lady"

HRC was partner at the biggest/most prominent law firm in Arkansas at a time when governors' wives were expected to not have their own careers. She was *partner* when the glass ceiling was a real phenomena for law firms.

Michelle Obama was some kind of VP of diversity in a sinecure role at a Chicago hospital. Still not quite clear what she did to justify her 300k salary at the time. Michelle Obama is a perfectly competent woman but has none of the accomplishments of HRC and like with her husband, people try to make her more than she really is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Hillary Clinton has been a Senator and Secretary of State. And a presidential nominee? It's not even close.

It may be possible that Michelle Obama gave up the highest salary to become first lady, and maybe wins the "most accomplished at the time of becoming first lady"

HRC was partner at the biggest/most prominent law firm in Arkansas at a time when governors' wives were expected to not have their own careers. She was *partner* when the glass ceiling was a real phenomena for law firms.

Michelle Obama was some kind of VP of diversity in a sinecure role at a Chicago hospital. Still not quite clear what she did to justify her 300k salary at the time. Michelle Obama is a perfectly competent woman but has none of the accomplishments of HRC and like with her husband, people try to make her more than she really is.

And you don't think that had anything at all to do with her being the governor's wife?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.

Honestly, she might have been elected president had she not had Bill’s baggage.

But she never would have been nominated for president (or secretary of state, or senator) had she not gained worldwide fame for being Bill's wife.

Had she not married Bill, she might have left her law firm job to run for an elected office at some point. It might have happened.

ICYMI: Bill was charismatic and articulate, but she was the strategic one who helped him achieve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.

Honestly, she might have been elected president had she not had Bill’s baggage.

But she never would have been nominated for president (or secretary of state, or senator) had she not gained worldwide fame for being Bill's wife.

Had she not married Bill, she might have left her law firm job to run for an elected office at some point. It might have happened.

ICYMI: Bill was charismatic and articulate, but she was the strategic one who helped him achieve.

If only she had been strategic enough to spend more time campaigning in Wisconsin and Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.

Honestly, she might have been elected president had she not had Bill’s baggage.

But she never would have been nominated for president (or secretary of state, or senator) had she not gained worldwide fame for being Bill's wife.

Had she not married Bill, she might have left her law firm job to run for an elected office at some point. It might have happened.

ICYMI: Bill was charismatic and articulate, but she was the strategic one who helped him achieve.

This was a big criticism of her back in the day- Bill was letting her shape policy and his presidency. They're a team. I'm pretty sure he's now even said as much, if she was a man she would have been in his place.

[Anonymous]

1. Hilary Clinton
2. Eleanor Roosevelt
3. Jill Biden