What happened to NYC?

[Anonymous]

In 10 years they will rerelease “Escape from New York” but this time it will be classified as a documentary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies in action.

+1
No mystery about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Care to supply some facts for your diatribe, OP?


Here are some:
There was not one single year in the time you lived there that has fewer murders than 2023. Almost every year you lived there nyc had more than 500 murders. 2023 has fewer than 400.

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/historical-crime-data/seven-major-felony-offenses-2000-2023.pdf

Facts do not matter in the fear-driven MAGAsphere, which feeds its adherents a daily diet of images, headlines, and rhetoric about out-of-control urban crime in "blue" cities and "vermin" flooding our southern border. This is how people that don't even live in NYC, SF, etc. can be whipped up into a frenzy about things they have no firsthand experience with. The GOP governs through fear.

DP. Do keep up the gaslighting! Here are some liberal sources reporting on exactly the things you mention.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/16/nyregion/subway-shooting-national-guard-safety.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/11/dc-violence-gun-deaths-residents/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/03/07/san-francisco-welfare-drug-screening-police/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/26/biden-vows-shut-down-an-overwhelmed-border-if-senate-deal-passes/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in NYC from 2005 to 2009. These were the Michael Bloomberg years. NYC at the time was incredibly safe and booming. I regularly walked around the city at all times of the very late night without a worry in the world. Sometimes there were odd birds in the subway, but it was for the most part perfectly safe and non-scary. There was no talk of murders and robberies in the streets. Now NYC seems in chaos: I’m no Republican but it seems Bloomberg’s policies made the city thrive. What the heck happened since? It seems like a hellhole now.

Is this perspective from recent visits or news/DCUM?

This is clearly a GOP propaganda posting. Just at troll. Crime in NYC is way down, but they can hardly admit that.

Right, that's why the mayor called in the National Guard.

Right?! Amazing, the blatant gaslighting on display by the left.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Post something new instead of the usual Trumpster boogeymen of NYC and San Francisco, OP.

Is the NYT a right wing source? How about the WaPo? No? Didn’t think so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/14/us/oakland-crime-economy-homelessness.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/29/us/san-francisco-doom-loop.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/05/san-francisco-crime-drugs-police-election/95bc1d80-dab8-11ee-b5e9-ad4573c62315_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2024/03/14/san-francisco-homeless-drugs-lawsuit/45544b96-e248-11ee-95aa-7384336086f3_story.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in NYC from 2005 to 2009. These were the Michael Bloomberg years. NYC at the time was incredibly safe and booming. I regularly walked around the city at all times of the very late night without a worry in the world. Sometimes there were odd birds in the subway, but it was for the most part perfectly safe and non-scary. There was no talk of murders and robberies in the streets. Now NYC seems in chaos: I’m no Republican but it seems Bloomberg’s policies made the city thrive. What the heck happened since? It seems like a hellhole now.

Is this perspective from recent visits or news/DCUM?

This is clearly a GOP propaganda posting. Just at troll. Crime in NYC is way down, but they can hardly admit that.

Right, that's why the mayor called in the National Guard.

He didn't. The governor did. Because one or the other or both cut funding to the NYPD and reduced the transit police in the subway. So now there's a jump in crime in the subway and they apparently don't have time to get more real police. It's stupid, but doesn't reflect rampant crime in the city.

I'll bet those claiming otherwise haven't even been to NYC recently. Or at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in NYC from 2005 to 2009. These were the Michael Bloomberg years. NYC at the time was incredibly safe and booming. I regularly walked around the city at all times of the very late night without a worry in the world. Sometimes there were odd birds in the subway, but it was for the most part perfectly safe and non-scary. There was no talk of murders and robberies in the streets. Now NYC seems in chaos: I’m no Republican but it seems Bloomberg’s policies made the city thrive. What the heck happened since? It seems like a hellhole now.

Is this perspective from recent visits or news/DCUM?

This is clearly a GOP propaganda posting. Just at troll. Crime in NYC is way down, but they can hardly admit that.

Right, that's why the mayor called in the National Guard.

He didn't. The governor did. Because one or the other or both cut funding to the NYPD and reduced the transit police in the subway. So now there's a jump in crime in the subway and they apparently don't have time to get more real police. It's stupid, but doesn't reflect rampant crime in the city.

I'll bet those claiming otherwise haven't even been to NYC recently. Or at all.

You're right, the Dem Governor sent the National Guard, and the Dem mayor supports it.

Also, more money doesn't mean more people want to be transit police. It might pay for over time, but how much OT can transit police take without being burnt out.

https://nystateofpolitics.com/state-of-politics/new-york/politics/2024/03/12/mayor-eric-adams-expresses-support-governor-kathy-hochul-subway-safety-plan

[Anonymous]

Then problem is people aren't being arrested, and if they are then they are immediately released and often not prosecuted. So years ago there were large number of people engaging in violent and petty crimes who were incarcerated so they weren't around to commit more crimes.

Case in point:
A 23 year old completely unprovoked went up to a violinist playing in the subway and bashed him with a metal bottle in the back of the head. The poor violinist who is a medical student was also choked and punched by a different person a few months previously while playing in the subway.

The defendant was arrested on Feb. 29 and immediately releases despite not appearing in three out of five other court cases and having two bench warrants out on her and 8 prior arrests including to assaults against her mother

She was again arrested on March 6 for stealing a $235 hat from Nordstroms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberals went looney with CRT, D.E.I., criminal justice reform, etc. Now the criminals have all the rights, the police have been neutered and we have let in millions of people who don’t belong in the US.

To top it off the good people of NY have chosen very poor people to lead them such as the good mayor and governor.

Yes, this exactly.

[Anonymous]

The WaPo just had an article today about crime in DC and posted crime stats for major cities-NYC has just about the lowest per capital violent crime.

Also I lived there in the mid 90s and it was way worse (Giuliani years!). My brothers lived there in the late 70/ and early 80s and thinks everything since then is basically sanitized Disneyland in comparison. Those were the days when people used to throw glass bottles at the outfielders in yankee stadium and when times seabed was basically all hookers and every inch of the subway was covered in graffiti.

[Anonymous]

New York has always had crime and an element of crazy . It’s no different now than the Bloomberg years . It’s not quiet suburbia it’s called the concrete jungle for a reason. Eight million people in a city. It’s impossible to not have any crimes . It’s just a statistical impossibility.

Most New Yorkers have street smarts and are brave and get out of the way when they see crazy or take a cab instead of the subway if it’s 1am since they know it’s mostly homeless people and the subways are empty at that time since it’s not rush hour.

I find that the people who ask what happened to New York aren’t from New York.

Oh, and New York has always had migrants so that’s not anything new either for the city. The housing of migrants in hotels is something new I believe but not the actual migrants. There were always migrants in the city and migrants usually do not do most of the crimes .

[Anonymous]

I’ve been working in NYC for 25 years and I find it as safe as ever.

The only odd time was 2020-2021 when the streets were empty and there was an unease in the air. Crime spiked, but from a very low level compared to other parts of the country.

The city now feels like it used to and the crime stats show that as well. The uptick in crime has fully receded. Murders dropped last year and are down 25% so far this year, we may challenge the record low if this keeps up! People are out and about, the streets and restaurants are busy (with some lag in the business districts due to hybrid work).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WaPo just had an article today about crime in DC and posted crime stats for major cities-NYC has just about the lowest per capital violent crime.

Also I lived there in the mid 90s and it was way worse (Giuliani years!). My brothers lived there in the late 70/ and early 80s and thinks everything since then is basically sanitized Disneyland in comparison. Those were the days when people used to throw glass bottles at the outfielders in yankee stadium and when times seabed was basically all hookers and every inch of the subway was covered in graffiti.

so then why call the National Guard if it's not so bad as you say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Care to supply some facts for your diatribe, OP?


Here are some:
There was not one single year in the time you lived there that has fewer murders than 2023. Almost every year you lived there nyc had more than 500 murders. 2023 has fewer than 400.

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/historical-crime-data/seven-major-felony-offenses-2000-2023.pdf

Facts do not matter in the fear-driven MAGAsphere, which feeds its adherents a daily diet of images, headlines, and rhetoric about out-of-control urban crime in "blue" cities and "vermin" flooding our southern border. This is how people that don't even live in NYC, SF, etc. can be whipped up into a frenzy about things they have no firsthand experience with. The GOP governs through fear.

DP. Do keep up the gaslighting! Here are some liberal sources reporting on exactly the things you mention.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/16/nyregion/subway-shooting-national-guard-safety.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/11/dc-violence-gun-deaths-residents/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/03/07/san-francisco-welfare-drug-screening-police/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/26/biden-vows-shut-down-an-overwhelmed-border-if-senate-deal-passes/

I still remember how quickly they booted migrants out of Martha’s Vineyard lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing is wrong with NYC.
There are a lot of problems in the subway right now, so they've called in the national guard to help make people feel safer.
But millions of people ride the subway every day, and there are few incidents. But even a single incident scares millions. It's always been like this.
When I lived in NYC decades ago, people got shoved onto the tracks and died. Scared everyone, but people still took the subways.
There were migrants and tons of homeless people then. Rudy Guiliani pushed the homeless people off the streets and into shelters, so it seemed safer.
But NYC is NYC, and it's as dangerous as always and as safe as always. It's a big city with big city problems that increase and decrease, as do such problems in all cities.
Go back to sleep, OP.

Sounds like a war zone.